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From: Finn Thain <fthain@linux-m68k.org>
To: "Mark Cave-Ayland" <mark.cave-ayland@ilande.co.uk>,
	"Philippe Mathieu-Daudé" <f4bug@amsat.org>
Cc: aleksandar.rikalo@syrmia.com, jasowang@redhat.com,
	qemu-devel@nongnu.org, laurent@vivier.eu, hpoussin@reactos.org,
	aurelien@aurel32.net
Subject: Re: [PATCH v2 08/10] dp8393x: don't force 32-bit register access
Date: Fri, 2 Jul 2021 14:36:00 +1000 (AEST)	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <82eeaede-12e7-29f3-9084-33105f5cb61e@linux-m68k.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <a6fae6a6-4fbd-a75c-96b5-403ba3658217@amsat.org>

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On Thu, 1 Jul 2021, Philippe Mathieu-Daudé wrote:

> On 6/25/21 8:53 AM, Mark Cave-Ayland wrote:
> > Commit 3fe9a838ec "dp8393x: Always use 32-bit accesses" assumed that 
> > all accesses to the registers were 32-bit 

No, that assumption was not made there. Just take a look at my commits in 
Linux that make 16-bit accesses. If commit 3fe9a838ec worked by accident, 
it probably just reflects my inadequate knowledge of QEMU internals.

> > but this is actually not the case. The access size is determined by 
> > the CPU instruction used and not the number of physical address lines.
> > 

I think that's an over-simplification (in the context of commit 
3fe9a838ec).

> > The big_endian workaround applied to the register read/writes was 
> > actually caused by forcing the access size to 32-bit when the guest OS 
> > was using a 16-bit access. Since the registers are 16-bit then we can 
> > simply set .impl.min_access to 2 and then the memory API will 
> > automatically do the right thing for both 16-bit accesses used by 
> > Linux and 32-bit accesses used by the MacOS toolbox ROM.
> 
> Hmm I'm not sure. This sounds to me like the "QEMU doesn't model busses 
> so we end using kludge to hide bugs" pattern. Can you provide a QTest 
> (ideally) or a "-trace memory_region_ops_\*" log of your firmware 
> accessing the dp8393x please?
> 

The DP83932 chip is highly configurable, so I'm not sure that the 
behaviour of any given firmware would resolve the question.

Anyway, as far as the DP83932 hardware is concerned, the behaviour of the 
upper 16-bits of the data bus depends on the configuration programmed into 
the DP83932 registers, and whether the chip is accessed as a slave or 
performing DMA as a master.

  reply	other threads:[~2021-07-02  4:42 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 34+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2021-06-25  6:53 [PATCH v2 00/10] dp8393x: fixes for MacOS toolbox ROM Mark Cave-Ayland
2021-06-25  6:53 ` [PATCH v2 01/10] dp8393x: checkpatch fixes Mark Cave-Ayland
2021-06-25  8:45   ` Philippe Mathieu-Daudé
2021-06-25  6:53 ` [PATCH v2 02/10] dp8393x: convert to trace-events Mark Cave-Ayland
2021-06-25  8:47   ` Philippe Mathieu-Daudé
2021-06-25  6:53 ` [PATCH v2 03/10] hw/mips/jazz: move PROM and checksum calculation from dp8393x device to board Mark Cave-Ayland
2021-07-01 21:43   ` Philippe Mathieu-Daudé
2021-06-25  6:53 ` [PATCH v2 04/10] hw/m68k/q800: " Mark Cave-Ayland
2021-07-01 21:43   ` Philippe Mathieu-Daudé
2021-06-25  6:53 ` [PATCH v2 05/10] dp8393x: remove onboard PROM containing MAC address and checksum Mark Cave-Ayland
2021-07-01 21:43   ` Philippe Mathieu-Daudé
2021-06-25  6:53 ` [PATCH v2 06/10] qemu/bitops.h: add bitrev8 implementation Mark Cave-Ayland
2021-07-01 21:46   ` Philippe Mathieu-Daudé
2021-06-25  6:53 ` [PATCH v2 07/10] hw/m68k/q800: fix PROM checksum and MAC address storage Mark Cave-Ayland
2021-06-25  6:53 ` [PATCH v2 08/10] dp8393x: don't force 32-bit register access Mark Cave-Ayland
2021-07-01 21:34   ` Philippe Mathieu-Daudé
2021-07-02  4:36     ` Finn Thain [this message]
2021-07-03  6:21       ` Mark Cave-Ayland
2021-07-03  8:52         ` Philippe Mathieu-Daudé
2021-07-03 12:04           ` Mark Cave-Ayland
2021-07-03 13:10             ` Philippe Mathieu-Daudé
2021-07-03 14:16               ` Mark Cave-Ayland
2021-07-03 14:22                 ` Philippe Mathieu-Daudé
2021-06-25  6:54 ` [PATCH v2 09/10] dp8393x: fix CAM descriptor entry index Mark Cave-Ayland
2021-07-03 12:59   ` Philippe Mathieu-Daudé
2021-07-05 19:13   ` Philippe Mathieu-Daudé
2021-06-25  6:54 ` [PATCH v2 10/10] hw/mips/jazz: specify correct endian for dp8393x device Mark Cave-Ayland
2021-06-25  8:51   ` Philippe Mathieu-Daudé
2021-06-25 12:01     ` Mark Cave-Ayland
2021-07-01 21:45   ` Philippe Mathieu-Daudé
2021-06-26  8:55 ` [PATCH v2 00/10] dp8393x: fixes for MacOS toolbox ROM Finn Thain
2021-07-02 13:03 ` Philippe Mathieu-Daudé
2021-07-03  6:32   ` Mark Cave-Ayland
2021-07-03  8:48     ` Philippe Mathieu-Daudé

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