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From: David Hildenbrand <david@redhat.com>
To: Alex Williamson <alex.williamson@redhat.com>,
	Paolo Bonzini <pbonzini@redhat.com>
Cc: Pankaj Gupta <pankaj.gupta.linux@gmail.com>,
	Wei Yang <richard.weiyang@linux.alibaba.com>,
	"Michael S. Tsirkin" <mst@redhat.com>,
	qemu-devel@nongnu.org, Peter Xu <peterx@redhat.com>,
	"Dr. David Alan Gilbert" <dgilbert@redhat.com>,
	Auger Eric <eric.auger@redhat.com>,
	Pankaj Gupta <pankaj.gupta@cloud.ionos.com>,
	teawater <teawaterz@linux.alibaba.com>,
	Jonathan Cameron <Jonathan.Cameron@huawei.com>,
	Igor Mammedov <imammedo@redhat.com>,
	Marek Kedzierski <mkedzier@redhat.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v5 00/11] virtio-mem: vfio support
Date: Tue, 16 Feb 2021 19:49:09 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <83763c2d-c0dd-12d8-193d-a58517340015@redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20210216113359.70af1ad4@omen.home.shazbot.org>

On 16.02.21 19:33, Alex Williamson wrote:
> On Mon, 15 Feb 2021 15:03:43 +0100
> David Hildenbrand <david@redhat.com> wrote:
> 
>> On 08.02.21 09:28, David Hildenbrand wrote:
>>> On 27.01.21 13:45, Michael S. Tsirkin wrote:
>>>> On Thu, Jan 21, 2021 at 12:05:29PM +0100, David Hildenbrand wrote:
>>>>> A virtio-mem device manages a memory region in guest physical address
>>>>> space, represented as a single (currently large) memory region in QEMU,
>>>>> mapped into system memory address space. Before the guest is allowed to use
>>>>> memory blocks, it must coordinate with the hypervisor (plug blocks). After
>>>>> a reboot, all memory is usually unplugged - when the guest comes up, it
>>>>> detects the virtio-mem device and selects memory blocks to plug (based on
>>>>> resize requests from the hypervisor).
>>>>>
>>>>> Memory hot(un)plug consists of (un)plugging memory blocks via a virtio-mem
>>>>> device (triggered by the guest). When unplugging blocks, we discard the
>>>>> memory - similar to memory balloon inflation. In contrast to memory
>>>>> ballooning, we always know which memory blocks a guest may actually use -
>>>>> especially during a reboot, after a crash, or after kexec (and during
>>>>> hibernation as well). Guests agreed to not access unplugged memory again,
>>>>> especially not via DMA.
>>>>>
>>>>> The issue with vfio is, that it cannot deal with random discards - for this
>>>>> reason, virtio-mem and vfio can currently only run mutually exclusive.
>>>>> Especially, vfio would currently map the whole memory region (with possible
>>>>> only little/no plugged blocks), resulting in all pages getting pinned and
>>>>> therefore resulting in a higher memory consumption than expected (turning
>>>>> virtio-mem basically useless in these environments).
>>>>>
>>>>> To make vfio work nicely with virtio-mem, we have to map only the plugged
>>>>> blocks, and map/unmap properly when plugging/unplugging blocks (including
>>>>> discarding of RAM when unplugging). We achieve that by using a new notifier
>>>>> mechanism that communicates changes.
>>>>
>>>> series
>>>>
>>>> Acked-by: Michael S. Tsirkin <mst@redhat.com>
>>>>
>>>> virtio bits
>>>>
>>>> Reviewed-by: Michael S. Tsirkin <mst@redhat.com>
>>>>
>>>> This needs to go through vfio tree I assume.
>>>
>>> Thanks Michael.
>>>
>>> @Alex, what are your suggestions?
>>
>> Gentle ping.
> 
> Sorry for the delay.  It looks to me like patches 1, 8, and 9 are
> Memory API that are still missing an Ack from Paolo.  I'll toss in my
> A-b+R-b for patches 6 and 7.  I don't see that this necessarily needs
> to go in through vfio, I'm more than happy if someone else wants to
> grab it.  Thanks,

Thanks, I assume patch #11 is fine with you as well?

@Paolo, it would be great if I can get your feedback on patch #1. I have 
more stuff coming up that will reuse RamDiscardMgr (i.e., for better 
migration handling and better guest memory dump handling).

-- 
Thanks,

David / dhildenb



  reply	other threads:[~2021-02-16 18:51 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 25+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2021-01-21 11:05 [PATCH v5 00/11] virtio-mem: vfio support David Hildenbrand
2021-01-21 11:05 ` [PATCH v5 01/11] memory: Introduce RamDiscardMgr for RAM memory regions David Hildenbrand
2021-02-16 18:50   ` David Hildenbrand
2021-01-21 11:05 ` [PATCH v5 02/11] virtio-mem: Factor out traversing unplugged ranges David Hildenbrand
2021-01-21 11:05 ` [PATCH v5 03/11] virtio-mem: Implement RamDiscardMgr interface David Hildenbrand
2021-01-27 20:14   ` Dr. David Alan Gilbert
2021-01-27 20:20     ` David Hildenbrand
2021-02-22 11:29     ` David Hildenbrand
2021-01-21 11:05 ` [PATCH v5 04/11] vfio: Support for RamDiscardMgr in the !vIOMMU case David Hildenbrand
2021-01-21 11:05 ` [PATCH v5 05/11] vfio: Query and store the maximum number of possible DMA mappings David Hildenbrand
2021-01-21 11:05 ` [PATCH v5 06/11] vfio: Sanity check maximum number of DMA mappings with RamDiscardMgr David Hildenbrand
2021-02-16 18:34   ` Alex Williamson
2021-01-21 11:05 ` [PATCH v5 07/11] vfio: Support for RamDiscardMgr in the vIOMMU case David Hildenbrand
2021-02-16 18:34   ` Alex Williamson
2021-01-21 11:05 ` [PATCH v5 08/11] softmmu/physmem: Don't use atomic operations in ram_block_discard_(disable|require) David Hildenbrand
2021-01-21 11:05 ` [PATCH v5 09/11] softmmu/physmem: Extend ram_block_discard_(require|disable) by two discard types David Hildenbrand
2021-01-21 11:05 ` [PATCH v5 10/11] virtio-mem: Require only coordinated discards David Hildenbrand
2021-01-21 11:05 ` [PATCH v5 11/11] vfio: Disable only uncoordinated discards for VFIO_TYPE1 iommus David Hildenbrand
2021-02-16 19:03   ` Alex Williamson
2021-01-27 12:45 ` [PATCH v5 00/11] virtio-mem: vfio support Michael S. Tsirkin
2021-02-08  8:28   ` David Hildenbrand
2021-02-15 14:03     ` David Hildenbrand
2021-02-16 18:33       ` Alex Williamson
2021-02-16 18:49         ` David Hildenbrand [this message]
2021-02-16 19:04           ` Alex Williamson

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