From: Xiao Guangrong <guangrong.xiao@gmail.com>
To: Paolo Bonzini <pbonzini@redhat.com>, "Emilio G. Cota" <cota@braap.org>
Cc: mst@redhat.com, mtosatti@redhat.com, qemu-devel@nongnu.org,
kvm@vger.kernel.org, dgilbert@redhat.com, peterx@redhat.com,
wei.w.wang@intel.com, jiang.biao2@zte.com.cn, eblake@redhat.com,
quintela@redhat.com, Xiao Guangrong <xiaoguangrong@tencent.com>
Subject: Re: [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 2/4] migration: introduce lockless multithreads model
Date: Mon, 29 Oct 2018 10:52:37 +0800 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <84faa6d1-5dc5-09bf-e2b2-61c34b418844@gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <5e062ad6-6779-b7de-ee15-482ddaac9556@redhat.com>
On 10/28/2018 03:50 PM, Paolo Bonzini wrote:
> On 27/10/2018 01:33, Emilio G. Cota wrote:
>> On Wed, Oct 17, 2018 at 12:10:15 +0200, Paolo Bonzini wrote:
>>> On 16/10/2018 13:10, guangrong.xiao@gmail.com wrote:
>>
>>> An idea: the total number of requests is going to be very small, and a
>>> PtrRing is not the nicest data structure for multiple producer/single
>>> consumer. So you could instead:
>> (snip)
>>> - now that you have request indices, you can replace the completion
>>> ptr_ring with a bitmap, and set a bit in the bitmap with set_bit_atomic
>>> to report completion. On the writer side you use find_next_bit to find
>> (snip)
>>> Emilio, can you review the above ideas?
>>
>> Sorry it took me a while to go through this.
>>
>> I like your suggestions. Just one nit; I'm not sure I understood
>> the use case very well, but I think using a bitmap to signal
>> completion might be suboptimal, since we'd have several
>> thread spinning on the same cacheline yet caring about
>> different bits.
>
> Requests are asynchronous, the bitmap is only used to find a free
> submission slot. You're right that the bitmap can bounce across
> processors, but I'm not sure how else you would do that because you
> don't know in advance how many submitting threads you have. It wouldn't
> be any worse if there was a spinlock.
>
> However, in the migration case there is only one submitting thread, so
> it's okay. :)
>
Yup.
The cache contention only exists in the work threads, the sumbiter thread
is totally free who is the main migration thread. Making the main thread
be faster is good.
> Paolo
>
>> Xiao: a couple of suggestions
>>
>> - Since you'll be adding a generic module, make its commit and
>> description self-contained. That is, mentioning in the
>> log that this will be used for migration is fine, but please
>> describe the module (and the assumptions it makes about its
>> users) in general, so that someone that doesn't know anything
>> about migration can still understand this module (and hopefully
>> adopt it for other use cases).
Good to me, i will add more detailed description for this module in
the next version.
>>
>> - I'd like to see a simple test program (or rather, benchmark)
>> that shows how this works. This benchmark would be completely
>> unrelated to migration; it should just be a simple test of
>> the performance/scalability of this module.
>> Having this benchmark would help (1) discuss and quantitately
>> evaluate modifications to the module, and (2) help others to
>> quickly understand what the module does.
>> See tests/qht-bench.c for an example.
>>
Can not agree with you more, will do. :)
Thank you, Emilio and Paolo!
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2018-10-29 2:52 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 14+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2018-10-16 11:10 [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 0/4] migration: improve multithreads guangrong.xiao
2018-10-16 11:10 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 1/4] ptr_ring: port ptr_ring from linux kernel to QEMU guangrong.xiao
2018-10-16 16:40 ` Emilio G. Cota
2018-10-17 8:14 ` Paolo Bonzini
2018-10-18 6:52 ` Xiao Guangrong
2018-10-16 11:10 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 2/4] migration: introduce lockless multithreads model guangrong.xiao
2018-10-17 10:10 ` Paolo Bonzini
2018-10-18 9:30 ` Xiao Guangrong
2018-10-18 10:39 ` Paolo Bonzini
2018-10-26 23:33 ` Emilio G. Cota
2018-10-28 7:50 ` Paolo Bonzini
2018-10-29 2:52 ` Xiao Guangrong [this message]
2018-10-16 11:10 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 3/4] migration: use lockless Multithread model for compression guangrong.xiao
2018-10-16 11:10 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 4/4] migration: use lockless Multithread model for decompression guangrong.xiao
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