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From: Paolo Bonzini <pbonzini@redhat.com>
To: Eduardo Habkost <ehabkost@redhat.com>
Cc: Kevin Wolf <kwolf@redhat.com>,
	lvivier@redhat.com, thuth@redhat.com, pkrempa@redhat.com,
	berrange@redhat.com, qemu-block@nongnu.org,
	libvir-list@redhat.com, armbru@redhat.com, jasowang@redhat.com,
	qemu-devel@nongnu.org, mreitz@redhat.com, kraxel@redhat.com
Subject: Re: [PATCH 00/18] qapi/qom: QAPIfy object-add
Date: Thu, 3 Dec 2020 19:10:37 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <857d3595-73bc-db5a-1ccc-d18549e014f5@redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20201203175205.GL3836@habkost.net>

On 03/12/20 18:52, Eduardo Habkost wrote:
> On Thu, Dec 03, 2020 at 05:50:46PM +0100, Paolo Bonzini wrote:
>> On 03/12/20 16:15, Kevin Wolf wrote:
>>> I don't think this is an intermediate state like Eduardo wants to have.
>>> Creating the object, then setting properties, then realize [1] will fail
>>> after your change. But keeping it working was the whole point of the
>>> exercise.
>>
>> With the sample code, you must remove object_class_property_set calls at the
> 
> Do you mean object_property_set()?

Yes.

>> same time as you remove the setters.  Usually that'd be when you convert to
>> QAPI and oc->configure, but it doesn't have to be that way if there are good
>> reasons not to do so.
> 
> Having two (or more) similar but incompatible APIs to do exactly
> the same thing is a mistake we did before, and I wouldn't like us
> to repeat it.
> 
> If we can keep qdev_new() + object_property_set() + realize
> working after the device is converted, we should.  I believe we
> can.

You can.  If you want to do that, you have to give up on removing the 
setters; but that's not so beneficial for devices because they already 
use static properties anyway.  They have much less boilerplate than 
-object objects.

> If we can make object_new_configure() work with all (or most)
> device types before we manually convert them to the new system,
> we should.  I believe we can.

Yup, object_new_configure() is the low-level visitor-based API and 
therefore it supports both properties and oc->configure.

> We may be able avoid these questions with -object because
> converting all backends at the same time is doable.  With
> devices, API usability and maintainability during the transition
> period (which could be very long) needs to be taken into account.

I think we're in violent agreement. :)

Paolo



  reply	other threads:[~2020-12-03 18:12 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 60+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2020-11-30 12:25 [PATCH 00/18] qapi/qom: QAPIfy object-add Kevin Wolf
2020-11-30 12:25 ` [PATCH 01/18] qapi/qom: Add ObjectOptions for iothread Kevin Wolf
2020-11-30 15:00   ` Paolo Bonzini
2020-11-30 15:54     ` Kevin Wolf
2020-11-30 12:25 ` [PATCH 02/18] qapi/qom: Add ObjectOptions for authz-* Kevin Wolf
2020-11-30 12:25 ` [PATCH 03/18] qapi/qom: Add ObjectOptions for cryptodev-* Kevin Wolf
2020-11-30 12:25 ` [PATCH 04/18] qapi/qom: Add ObjectOptions for dbus-vmstate Kevin Wolf
2020-11-30 12:25 ` [PATCH 05/18] qapi/qom: Add ObjectOptions for memory-backend-* Kevin Wolf
2020-11-30 12:25 ` [PATCH 06/18] qapi/qom: Add ObjectOptions for rng-*, deprecate 'opened' Kevin Wolf
2020-11-30 12:25 ` [PATCH 07/18] qapi/qom: Add ObjectOptions for throttle-group Kevin Wolf
2020-11-30 12:25 ` [PATCH 08/18] qapi/qom: Add ObjectOptions for secret*, deprecate 'loaded' Kevin Wolf
2020-11-30 12:25 ` [PATCH 09/18] qapi/qom: Add ObjectOptions for tls-*, " Kevin Wolf
2020-11-30 12:25 ` [PATCH 10/18] qapi/qom: Add ObjectOptions for can-* Kevin Wolf
2020-11-30 12:25 ` [PATCH 11/18] qapi/qom: Add ObjectOptions for colo-compare Kevin Wolf
2020-11-30 12:25 ` [PATCH 12/18] qapi/qom: Add ObjectOptions for filter-* Kevin Wolf
2020-11-30 12:25 ` [PATCH 13/18] qapi/qom: Add ObjectOptions for pr-manager-helper Kevin Wolf
2020-11-30 12:25 ` [PATCH 14/18] qapi/qom: Add ObjectOptions for sev-guest Kevin Wolf
2020-11-30 12:25 ` [PATCH 15/18] qapi/qom: Add ObjectOptions for input-* Kevin Wolf
2020-11-30 12:25 ` [PATCH 16/18] tests: Drop 'props' from object-add calls Kevin Wolf
2020-11-30 12:25 ` [PATCH 17/18] qapi/qom: Drop deprecated 'props' from object-add Kevin Wolf
2020-11-30 12:25 ` [PATCH 18/18] qapi/qom: QAPIfy object-add Kevin Wolf
2020-11-30 14:58 ` [PATCH 00/18] " Paolo Bonzini
2020-11-30 15:30   ` Daniel P. Berrangé
2020-11-30 16:13     ` Kevin Wolf
2020-11-30 16:52       ` Daniel P. Berrangé
2020-11-30 16:32     ` Paolo Bonzini
2020-12-01  8:36       ` Markus Armbruster
2020-11-30 15:46   ` Kevin Wolf
2020-11-30 16:57     ` Paolo Bonzini
2020-11-30 18:10       ` Kevin Wolf
2020-11-30 19:35         ` Paolo Bonzini
2020-12-01 16:20           ` Kevin Wolf
2020-12-01 17:16             ` Paolo Bonzini
2020-12-01 18:28               ` Eduardo Habkost
2020-12-01 19:35               ` Kevin Wolf
2020-12-01 21:23                 ` Paolo Bonzini
2020-12-01 22:08                   ` Eduardo Habkost
2020-12-02  9:30                     ` Paolo Bonzini
2020-12-02 10:38                       ` Kevin Wolf
2020-12-02 12:30                         ` Paolo Bonzini
2020-12-02 12:51                       ` Eduardo Habkost
2020-12-02 13:26                         ` Paolo Bonzini
2020-12-02 13:54                           ` Eduardo Habkost
2020-12-02 15:17                             ` Kevin Wolf
2020-12-02 16:05                               ` Eduardo Habkost
2020-12-02 17:35                                 ` Kevin Wolf
2020-12-02 19:45                                   ` Eduardo Habkost
2020-12-03  6:46                                   ` Gerd Hoffmann
2020-12-03 14:58                                     ` Eduardo Habkost
2020-12-03 11:11                                   ` Paolo Bonzini
2020-12-03 15:15                                     ` Kevin Wolf
2020-12-03 16:50                                       ` Paolo Bonzini
2020-12-03 17:43                                         ` Kevin Wolf
2020-12-03 18:01                                           ` Paolo Bonzini
2020-12-03 17:52                                         ` Eduardo Habkost
2020-12-03 18:10                                           ` Paolo Bonzini [this message]
2020-12-03 18:19                                             ` Eduardo Habkost
2020-12-02 10:27                   ` Kevin Wolf
2020-12-02 12:41                     ` Paolo Bonzini
2020-11-30 18:58 ` Peter Krempa

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