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[149.14.88.107]) by smtp.gmail.com with ESMTPSA id b6-20020ac87546000000b00419792c1be7sm1179462qtr.30.2023.10.04.05.37.15 (version=TLS1_3 cipher=TLS_AES_128_GCM_SHA256 bits=128/128); Wed, 04 Oct 2023 05:37:16 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <85be2979-c0ca-3eb4-dae9-bbabf256c201@redhat.com> Date: Wed, 4 Oct 2023 14:37:14 +0200 MIME-Version: 1.0 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:102.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/102.15.1 Subject: Re: [PATCH 00/13] misc: Rename 'softmmu' -> 'system' Content-Language: en-US To: =?UTF-8?Q?Daniel_P=2e_Berrang=c3=a9?= , =?UTF-8?Q?Philippe_Mathieu-Daud=c3=a9?= Cc: qemu-devel@nongnu.org, qemu-riscv@nongnu.org, qemu-ppc@nongnu.org, qemu-s390x@nongnu.org, qemu-arm@nongnu.org, Paolo Bonzini References: <20231004090629.37473-1-philmd@linaro.org> From: Thomas Huth In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Received-SPF: pass client-ip=170.10.133.124; envelope-from=thuth@redhat.com; helo=us-smtp-delivery-124.mimecast.com X-Spam_score_int: -35 X-Spam_score: -3.6 X-Spam_bar: --- X-Spam_report: (-3.6 / 5.0 requ) BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIMWL_WL_HIGH=-0.001, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_EF=-0.1, NICE_REPLY_A=-1.528, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE=-0.0001, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_H3=0.001, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_WL=0.001, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001 autolearn=unavailable autolearn_force=no X-Spam_action: no action X-BeenThere: qemu-devel@nongnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: qemu-devel-bounces+qemu-devel=archiver.kernel.org@nongnu.org Sender: qemu-devel-bounces+qemu-devel=archiver.kernel.org@nongnu.org On 04/10/2023 14.33, Daniel P. Berrangé wrote: > On Wed, Oct 04, 2023 at 11:06:15AM +0200, Philippe Mathieu-Daudé wrote: >> This series finishes the cleanup which remove the confusion >> of using 'softmmu' when we really mean 'system emulation', >> as opposition to 'user emulation'. > > Am I mis-understanding what you mean by 'finishes' here, as > I see many references to softmmu remaining > > $ git grep softmmu | wc -l > 270 > > In particular under configs/ > > I was also hoping it meant that we'd be changing configure > to allow > > configure --target-list=x86_64-system > > though the lazy side of me would like > > configure --target-list=x86_64-vm > > for less typing Maybe we should also bikeshed about the naming first... "system" is a quite overloaded word in this context already, and "vm" sounds rather like hardware-accelerated stuff ... what about using something like "sysemu"? Or "fullsys" for "full system emulation" (in contrast to "user space"-only emulation)? Thomas