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From: Paolo Bonzini <pbonzini@redhat.com>
To: "Daniel P. Berrangé" <berrange@redhat.com>,
	"John Snow" <jsnow@redhat.com>
Cc: qemu-devel <qemu-devel@nongnu.org>,
	"Warner Losh" <imp@bsdimp.com>, "Beraldo Leal" <bleal@redhat.com>,
	"Kyle Evans" <kevans@freebsd.org>,
	"Thomas Huth" <thuth@redhat.com>,
	"Reinoud Zandijk" <reinoud@netbsd.org>,
	"Wainer dos Santos Moschetta" <wainersm@redhat.com>,
	"Cleber Rosa" <crosa@redhat.com>,
	"Ryo ONODERA" <ryoon@netbsd.org>,
	"Philippe Mathieu-Daudé" <philmd@linaro.org>,
	"Ani Sinha" <ani@anisinha.ca>,
	"Michael S. Tsirkin" <mst@redhat.com>,
	"Alex Bennée" <alex.bennee@linaro.org>
Subject: Re: [RFC PATCH v3 00/20] configure: create a python venv and ensure meson, sphinx
Date: Wed, 26 Apr 2023 10:35:47 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <85f4b92c-3194-a3e6-b656-289118852341@redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <ZEjfJtRC+MfRXpVL@redhat.com>

On 4/26/23 10:21, Daniel P. Berrangé wrote:
>> So if you already have Sphinx, this should perform an upgrade to the
>> latest version?
>
> Essentially I meant 'force' to mean*never*  use the host python
> installation packages. Always install all the deps in the venv,
> even if they exist in the host with sufficient version met.

I think this is essentially --enable-isolated-venv.  I don't think there 
is a usecase for "let the venv use system packages, but override them 
with pip right away".

>>
>> --python=... # runtime used to create venv
>> --enable-pip-groups=testing,devel,avocado,meson,sphinx
>> --enable-pip=now  # install all python deps now
>> --enable-pip=on-demand  # install qemu.git/meson/sphinx, delay the rest
>> --enable-pip=no    # offline
>> --{enable,disable}-isolated-venv # let venv use system/distro if disable
> 
> This feels like a bit of overkill to me, and would create a hell
> of a lot of combinations to test if you expand the matrix of
> options.

Yeah, this is a bit overkill.  I think we can reduce it to three cases, 
corresponding to:

- --enable-pypi --enable-isolated-venv - use pip to install everything, 
including for options in "auto" state (e.g. would install sphinx without 
--enable-docs)

- --enable-pypi --disable-isolated-venv - use pip to install missing 
packages.  TBD whether to do so for options in "auto" state or only for 
"enabled" (i.e., TBD whether to install sphinx without --enable-docs).

- --disable-pypi (only meaningful for --disable-isolated-venv) - apart 
from vendored wheels, just use system site packages (same as QEMU <= 8.0)

I think we want to hash out this detail first, and thus we should leave 
online mode out of the non-RFC version.  It can be implemented together 
with isolated mode.

Paolo



  reply	other threads:[~2023-04-26  8:36 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 46+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2023-04-24 20:02 [RFC PATCH v3 00/20] configure: create a python venv and ensure meson, sphinx John Snow
2023-04-24 20:02 ` [RFC PATCH v3 01/20] python: update pylint configuration John Snow
2023-04-25 16:38   ` Daniel P. Berrangé
2023-04-24 20:02 ` [RFC PATCH v3 02/20] python: add mkvenv.py John Snow
2023-04-24 20:02 ` [RFC PATCH v3 03/20] mkvenv: add console script entry point generation John Snow
2023-04-24 20:02 ` [RFC PATCH v3 04/20] mkvenv: Add better error message for missing pyexpat module John Snow
2023-04-24 20:02 ` [RFC PATCH v3 05/20] mkvenv: generate console entry shims from inside the venv John Snow
2023-04-24 20:02 ` [RFC PATCH v3 06/20] mkvenv: work around broken pip installations on Debian 10 John Snow
2023-04-24 20:02 ` [RFC PATCH v3 07/20] mkvenv: add nested venv workaround John Snow
2023-04-24 20:02 ` [RFC PATCH v3 08/20] mkvenv: add ensure subcommand John Snow
2023-04-24 20:02 ` [RFC PATCH v3 09/20] tests/docker: add python3-venv dependency John Snow
2023-04-25 16:42   ` Daniel P. Berrangé
2023-04-24 20:02 ` [RFC PATCH v3 10/20] tests/vm: Configure netbsd to use Python 3.10 John Snow
2023-04-25 16:43   ` Daniel P. Berrangé
2023-04-24 20:02 ` [RFC PATCH v3 11/20] tests/vm: add py310-expat to NetBSD John Snow
2023-04-25 16:45   ` Daniel P. Berrangé
2023-04-25 16:57     ` John Snow
2023-04-24 20:02 ` [RFC PATCH v3 12/20] scripts/make-release: download meson==0.61.5 .whl John Snow
2023-04-24 20:02 ` [RFC PATCH v3 13/20] configure: create a python venv unconditionally John Snow
2023-04-24 20:02 ` [RFC PATCH v3 14/20] configure: use 'mkvenv ensure meson' to bootstrap meson John Snow
2023-04-24 20:35   ` Warner Losh
2023-04-24 20:41     ` John Snow
2023-04-24 21:20       ` Warner Losh
2023-04-24 20:02 ` [RFC PATCH v3 15/20] configure: add --enable-pypi and --disable-pypi John Snow
2023-04-24 20:02 ` [RFC PATCH v3 16/20] tests: Use configure-provided pyvenv for tests John Snow
2023-04-24 20:02 ` [RFC PATCH v3 17/20] configure: move --enable-docs and --disable-docs back to configure John Snow
2023-04-24 20:02 ` [RFC PATCH v3 18/20] mkvenv: add diagnose() method for ensure() failures John Snow
2023-04-24 20:02 ` [RFC PATCH v3 19/20] configure: use --diagnose option with meson ensure John Snow
2023-04-24 20:02 ` [RFC PATCH v3 20/20] configure: bootstrap sphinx with mkvenv John Snow
2023-04-25 17:17 ` [RFC PATCH v3 00/20] configure: create a python venv and ensure meson, sphinx Daniel P. Berrangé
2023-04-25 17:22   ` John Snow
2023-04-25 17:34     ` John Snow
2023-04-25 18:10       ` Daniel P. Berrangé
2023-04-25 18:58         ` John Snow
2023-04-26  8:21           ` Daniel P. Berrangé
2023-04-26  8:35             ` Paolo Bonzini [this message]
2023-04-25 18:03     ` Daniel P. Berrangé
2023-04-26  8:05 ` Paolo Bonzini
2023-04-26  8:49   ` Paolo Bonzini
2023-04-26 16:16     ` John Snow
2023-04-26 19:10       ` Paolo Bonzini
2023-04-26  8:53 ` Daniel P. Berrangé
2023-04-26  9:08   ` Paolo Bonzini
2023-04-26 16:32     ` John Snow
2023-04-26 19:23       ` Paolo Bonzini
2023-05-01 19:20 ` John Snow

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