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From: "Philippe Mathieu-Daudé" <philmd@linaro.org>
To: "Peter Maydell" <peter.maydell@linaro.org>,
	"Daniel P. Berrangé" <berrange@redhat.com>
Cc: qemu-devel@nongnu.org, "BALATON Zoltan" <balaton@eik.bme.hu>,
	"Laurent Vivier" <lvivier@redhat.com>,
	"Ovchinnikov Vitalii" <vitalii.ovchinnikov@auriga.com>,
	"Jared Mauch" <jared+home@puck.nether.net>,
	"Fabiano Rosas" <farosas@suse.de>,
	"Paolo Bonzini" <pbonzini@redhat.com>,
	qemu-arm@nongnu.org, "Alex Bennée" <alex.bennee@linaro.org>,
	devel@lists.libvirt.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH v2 11/12] hw/arm/raspi: Deprecate old raspiX machine names
Date: Tue, 4 Feb 2025 14:40:09 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <8616891b-9747-4388-99dc-d6e53e090001@linaro.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAFEAcA9m8g=K-0RU31kswbNSKWnUqA78KxNkcXEAqR=BhWc9bA@mail.gmail.com>

On 4/2/25 12:13, Peter Maydell wrote:
> On Tue, 4 Feb 2025 at 09:57, Daniel P. Berrangé <berrange@redhat.com> wrote:
>>
>> On Tue, Feb 04, 2025 at 10:51:04AM +0100, Philippe Mathieu-Daudé wrote:
>>> On 4/2/25 10:22, Peter Maydell wrote:
>>>> On Tue, 4 Feb 2025 at 00:23, Philippe Mathieu-Daudé <philmd@linaro.org> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> All previous raspi machines can be created using the
>>>>> generic machine. Deprecate the old names to maintain
>>>>> a single one. Update the tests.
>>>>>
>>>>> Signed-off-by: Philippe Mathieu-Daudé <philmd@linaro.org>
>>>>
>>>>> diff --git a/docs/about/deprecated.rst b/docs/about/deprecated.rst
>>>>> index 4a3c302962a..c9a11a52f78 100644
>>>>> --- a/docs/about/deprecated.rst
>>>>> +++ b/docs/about/deprecated.rst
>>>>> @@ -257,6 +257,19 @@ Big-Endian variants of MicroBlaze ``petalogix-ml605`` and ``xlnx-zynqmp-pmu`` ma
>>>>>    Both ``petalogix-ml605`` and ``xlnx-zynqmp-pmu`` were added for little endian
>>>>>    CPUs. Big endian support is not tested.
>>>>>
>>>>> +ARM ``raspi0``, ``raspi1ap``, ``raspi2b``, ``raspi3ap``, ``raspi3b`` and ``raspi4b`` machines (since 10.0)
>>>>> +''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''
>>>>> +
>>>>> +The Raspberry Pi machines have been unified under the generic ``raspi`` machine,
>>>>> +which takes the model as argument.
>>>>> +
>>>>> +    - `raspi0`` is now an alias for ``raspi,model=Zero``
>>>>> +    - `raspi1ap`` is now an alias for ``raspi,model=1A+``
>>>>> +    - `raspi2b`` is now an alias for ``raspi,model=2B``
>>>>> +    - `raspi3ap`` is now an alias for ``raspi,model=3A+``
>>>>> +    - `raspi3b`` is now an alias for ``raspi,model=3B``
>>>>> +    - `raspi4b`` is now an alias for ``raspi,model=4B``
>>>>
>>>> This is not how we typically handle "we have a bunch
>>>> of different devboards in one family". What's wrong with the
>>>> existing set of machine names?
>>>
>>> Zoltan and you don't want to add more machine names, then you
>>> don't want a generic machine. This is very confusing.
>>
>> IMHO we can have distinct machines for each model, but
>> *NOT* have further machines for each RAM size within a
>> model.
> 
> Yes, this was what I was intending to suggest. Apologies
> if I was confusing with what I said the previous time round.

OK, let's see if we understand each other correctly as developer,
before explaining to users, taking the 4B model as example.

The 4B come in 4 physical variants, depending on the amount of
DRAM: 1G, 2G, 4G and 8G.

We can not allocate 2G on 32-bit hosts, so to have a reproducible
guest behavior on 32/64-bit hosts, it makes sense to takes the
model with 1G of DRAM as default for the 'raspi4b' machine.

If an user specify -m 2G ... 8G, we can adapt the 'board_rev'
register to expose the corresponding amount of ram. Now, how /
where to tell the users 1/ the default is 1G, and 2/ they can use
2/4/8G?


  reply	other threads:[~2025-02-04 13:41 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 30+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2025-02-04  0:22 [PATCH v2 00/12] hw/arm/raspi: Allow creating any Raspberry Pi machine Philippe Mathieu-Daudé
2025-02-04  0:22 ` [PATCH v2 01/12] hw/arm/raspi: Access SoC parent object using BCM283X_BASE() macro Philippe Mathieu-Daudé
2025-02-04 15:01   ` Peter Maydell
2025-02-04  0:22 ` [PATCH v2 02/12] hw/arm/raspi: Merge model 4B with other models Philippe Mathieu-Daudé
2025-02-04 15:02   ` Peter Maydell
2025-02-04  0:22 ` [PATCH v2 03/12] hw/arm/raspi: Unify RASPI_MACHINE types Philippe Mathieu-Daudé
2025-02-04 15:06   ` Peter Maydell
2025-02-04  0:22 ` [PATCH v2 04/12] hw/arm/raspi: Pass board_rev as argument to raspi_base_machine_init() Philippe Mathieu-Daudé
2025-02-04  0:22 ` [PATCH v2 05/12] hw/arm/raspi: Consider processor id in types[] array Philippe Mathieu-Daudé
2025-02-04 15:08   ` Peter Maydell
2025-02-04  0:22 ` [PATCH v2 06/12] hw/arm/raspi: Consider network interface for B models Philippe Mathieu-Daudé
2025-02-04 15:09   ` Peter Maydell
2025-02-04  0:22 ` [PATCH v2 07/12] hw/arm/raspi: Check ramsize is within chipset aperture Philippe Mathieu-Daudé
2025-02-04 15:10   ` Peter Maydell
2025-02-04  0:22 ` [PATCH v2 08/12] hw/arm/raspi: Introduce generic Raspberry Pi machine Philippe Mathieu-Daudé
2025-02-04  0:22 ` [PATCH v2 09/12] hw/arm/raspi: Have the generic machine take a 'revision' property Philippe Mathieu-Daudé
2025-02-04  0:22 ` [PATCH v2 10/12] hw/arm/raspi: List models creatable by the generic 'raspi' machine Philippe Mathieu-Daudé
2025-02-04  0:22 ` [PATCH v2 11/12] hw/arm/raspi: Deprecate old raspiX machine names Philippe Mathieu-Daudé
2025-02-04  9:22   ` Peter Maydell
2025-02-04  9:51     ` Philippe Mathieu-Daudé
2025-02-04  9:57       ` Daniel P. Berrangé
2025-02-04 10:48         ` Philippe Mathieu-Daudé
2025-02-04 10:51           ` Daniel P. Berrangé
2025-02-04 11:13         ` Peter Maydell
2025-02-04 13:40           ` Philippe Mathieu-Daudé [this message]
2025-02-04 13:52             ` Peter Maydell
2025-02-04 14:59               ` Philippe Mathieu-Daudé
2025-02-04  9:58       ` BALATON Zoltan
2025-02-22 21:57         ` Jared Mauch
2025-02-04  0:22 ` [PATCH v2 12/12] hw/arm/raspi: Support more models Philippe Mathieu-Daudé

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