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From: Fabiano Rosas <farosas@suse.de>
To: Peter Xu <peterx@redhat.com>
Cc: qemu-devel@nongnu.org,
	"Daniel P . Berrangé" <berrange@redhat.com>,
	"Juraj Marcin" <jmarcin@redhat.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v3 0/2] migration/tls: Graceful shutdowns for main and postcopy channels
Date: Fri, 19 Sep 2025 10:50:56 -0300	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <871po2v9dr.fsf@suse.de> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <aMx9yi628fuXr_gH@x1.local>

Peter Xu <peterx@redhat.com> writes:

> On Thu, Sep 18, 2025 at 06:17:37PM -0300, Fabiano Rosas wrote:
>> > ============= ABOUT OLD PATCH 2 ===================
>> >
>> > I dropped it for now to unblock almost patch 1, because patch 1 will fix a
>> > real warning that can be triggered for not only qtest but also normal tls
>> > postcopy migration.
>> >
>> > While I was looking at temporary settings for multifd send iochannels to be
>> > blocking always, I found I cannot explain how migration_tls_channel_end()
>> > currently works, because it writes to the multifd iochannels while the
>> > channels should still be owned (and can be written at the same time?) by
>> > the sender threads.  It sounds like a thread-safety issue, or is it not?
>> >
>> 
>> IIUC, the multifd channels will be stuck at p->sem because this is the
>> success path so migration will have already finished when we reach
>> migration_cleanup(). The ram/device state migration will hold the main
>> thread until the multifd channels finish transferring.
>
> For success cases, indeed.  However this is not the success path?  After
> all, we check migration_has_failed().
>

My point is that when we reach here, if migration has succeeded, then it
should be ok. If not, then thread-safety doesn't matter because things
have already went bad, we'll lose the destination anyway.

> Should I then send a patch to only send bye() when succeeded?  Then I can
> also add some comment.  I wished we could assert.  Then the "temporarily
> changing nonblock mode" will also rely on this one, because ideally we
> shouldn't touch the fd nonblocking mode if some other thread is operating
> on it.
>

I don't know if it changes much. Currently we basically always ignore
the error from bye().

> The other thing is I also think we shouldn't rely on checking
> "p->tls_thread_created && p->thread_created" but only rely on channel type,
> which might be more straightforward (I almost did it in v1, but v2 rewrote
> things so it was lost).

Ok, but we may need to ensure bye() is not called before the session is
initiated. So thread_created may still be needed?


  reply	other threads:[~2025-09-19 13:52 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 8+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2025-09-18 20:39 [PATCH v3 0/2] migration/tls: Graceful shutdowns for main and postcopy channels Peter Xu
2025-09-18 20:39 ` [PATCH v3 1/2] io/crypto: Move tls premature termination handling into QIO layer Peter Xu
2025-09-18 20:39 ` [PATCH v3 2/2] migration: Make migration_has_failed() work even for CANCELLING Peter Xu
2025-09-18 21:17 ` [PATCH v3 0/2] migration/tls: Graceful shutdowns for main and postcopy channels Fabiano Rosas
2025-09-18 21:46   ` Peter Xu
2025-09-19 13:50     ` Fabiano Rosas [this message]
2025-09-22 20:18       ` Peter Xu
2025-09-22 21:41         ` Fabiano Rosas

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