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From: Anthony Liguori <anthony@codemonkey.ws>
To: "Michael S. Tsirkin" <mst@redhat.com>,
	Paolo Bonzini <pbonzini@redhat.com>
Cc: qemu-devel@nongnu.org, Stefan Hajnoczi <stefanha@gmail.com>,
	mdroth <mdroth@linux.vnet.ibm.com>,
	Liu Ping Fan <qemulist@gmail.com>
Subject: Re: [Qemu-devel] [RFC PATCH 0/2] port network layer onto glib
Date: Wed, 13 Mar 2013 13:09:19 -0500	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <871ubj894g.fsf@codemonkey.ws> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20130313175204.GA7894@redhat.com>

"Michael S. Tsirkin" <mst@redhat.com> writes:

> On Wed, Mar 13, 2013 at 06:31:57PM +0100, Paolo Bonzini wrote:
>> > We could do that purely
>> > with AioContexts as well, but that rules out a large class of
>> > backends that offloaded event loops can interact with, such as Chardevs,
>> > so I think modelling how to handle both will provide a threading model
>> > that scales better with other devices/subsystems.
>> 
>> .. but I think the "no magic" argument applies here too.  After all we
>> only have a handful of subsystems.  If chardevs are not performance
>> critical, they can keep running in the main thread.
>> 
>> If one day we find out that we need a real-time serial port, and glib
>> just doesn't cut it, we shouldn't be ashamed of ripping GIOChannels out,
>> hand-writing the same stuff, and using a dedicated AioContext.  Of
>> course by the time we get there we'll have unit tests/qtests to make
>> sure we do not regress.  Right??? :)
>> 
>> Paolo
>
> Since you mention serial port, just wanted to say that while it's
> bandwidth requirements are not high, we do need to improve its latency.
> ATM whenever someone tries to use the emulated serial, guest experiences
> stalls and worst case latency jumps, and it's a pain point for many
> users.

Can you be more specific?  I'm not familiar with this issue.

Regards,

Anthony Liguori

>
> -- 
> MST

  reply	other threads:[~2013-03-13 18:09 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 31+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2013-03-13  5:59 [Qemu-devel] [RFC PATCH 0/2] port network layer onto glib Liu Ping Fan
2013-03-13  5:59 ` [Qemu-devel] [RFC PATCH 1/2] net: port tap " Liu Ping Fan
2013-03-13  5:59 ` [Qemu-devel] [RFC PATCH 2/2] net: port hub " Liu Ping Fan
2013-03-13 10:58 ` [Qemu-devel] [RFC PATCH 0/2] port network layer " Paolo Bonzini
2013-03-13 12:34   ` Anthony Liguori
2013-03-13 16:21     ` Paolo Bonzini
2013-03-13 17:06       ` mdroth
2013-03-13 17:31         ` Paolo Bonzini
2013-03-13 17:52           ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2013-03-13 18:09             ` Anthony Liguori [this message]
2013-03-13 17:23       ` Anthony Liguori
2013-03-13 17:35         ` Paolo Bonzini
2013-03-13 17:52           ` Anthony Liguori
2013-03-14  9:29             ` Stefan Hajnoczi
2013-03-14  9:53               ` Paolo Bonzini
2013-03-13 17:58           ` Anthony Liguori
2013-03-13 18:08             ` Paolo Bonzini
2013-03-13 18:51               ` Anthony Liguori
2013-03-14 10:04     ` Peter Maydell
2013-03-14 10:53       ` Paolo Bonzini
2013-03-14 11:00         ` Peter Maydell
2013-03-14 11:04           ` Paolo Bonzini
2013-03-14 11:26             ` Peter Maydell
2013-03-15  9:13       ` Stefan Hajnoczi
2013-03-19  9:30       ` Markus Armbruster
2013-03-19 10:12         ` Peter Maydell
2013-03-19 10:34           ` Paolo Bonzini
2013-03-19 10:38             ` Peter Maydell
2013-03-19 10:45               ` Paolo Bonzini
2013-03-14 14:08   ` liu ping fan
2013-03-14 14:18     ` Paolo Bonzini

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