From: Fabiano Rosas <farosas@suse.de>
To: David Hildenbrand <david@redhat.com>, qemu-devel@nongnu.org
Cc: "Claudio Fontana" <cfontana@suse.de>,
jfehlig@suse.com, dfaggioli@suse.com, dgilbert@redhat.com,
"Daniel P . Berrangé" <berrange@redhat.com>,
"Juan Quintela" <quintela@redhat.com>
Subject: Re: [RFC PATCH v1 00/26] migration: File based migration with multifd and fixed-ram
Date: Mon, 03 Apr 2023 11:41:18 -0300 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <87355hf2pd.fsf@suse.de> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <733d9f6b-476c-a401-bc0b-e01fd2206a2a@redhat.com>
David Hildenbrand <david@redhat.com> writes:
> On 30.03.23 20:03, Fabiano Rosas wrote:
>> Hi folks,
>>
>> I'm continuing the work done last year to add a new format of
>> migration stream that can be used to migrate large guests to a single
>> file in a performant way.
>>
>> This is an early RFC with the previous code + my additions to support
>> multifd and direct IO. Let me know what you think!
>>
>> Here are the reference links for previous discussions:
>>
>> https://lists.gnu.org/archive/html/qemu-devel/2022-08/msg01813.html
>> https://lists.gnu.org/archive/html/qemu-devel/2022-10/msg01338.html
>> https://lists.gnu.org/archive/html/qemu-devel/2022-10/msg05536.html
>>
>> The series has 4 main parts:
>>
>> 1) File migration: A new "file:" migration URI. So "file:mig" does the
>> same as "exec:cat > mig". Patches 1-4 implement this;
>>
>> 2) Fixed-ram format: A new format for the migration stream. Puts guest
>> pages at their relative offsets in the migration file. This saves
>> space on the worst case of RAM utilization because every page has a
>> fixed offset in the migration file and (potentially) saves us time
>> because we could write pages independently in parallel. It also
>> gives alignment guarantees so we could use O_DIRECT. Patches 5-13
>> implement this;
>>
>> With patches 1-13 these two^ can be used with:
>>
>> (qemu) migrate_set_capability fixed-ram on
>> (qemu) migrate[_incoming] file:mig
>
> There are some use cases (especially virtio-mem, but also virtio-balloon
> with free-page-hinting) where we end up having very sparse guest RAM. We
> don't want to have such "memory without meaning" in the migration stream
> nor restore it on the destination.
>
Is that what is currently defined by ramblock_page_is_discarded ->
virtio_mem_rdm_is_populated ?
> Would that still be supported with the new format? For example, have a
> sparse VM savefile and remember which ranges actually contain reasonable
> data?
We do ignore zero pages, so I don't think it would be an issue to have
another criteria for ignoring pages. It seems if we do enable postcopy
load w/ fixed-ram that would be already handled in postcopy_request_page.
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2023-04-03 14:42 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 65+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2023-03-30 18:03 [RFC PATCH v1 00/26] migration: File based migration with multifd and fixed-ram Fabiano Rosas
2023-03-30 18:03 ` [RFC PATCH v1 01/26] migration: Add support for 'file:' uri for source migration Fabiano Rosas
2023-03-30 18:03 ` [RFC PATCH v1 02/26] migration: Add support for 'file:' uri for incoming migration Fabiano Rosas
2023-03-30 18:03 ` [RFC PATCH v1 03/26] tests/qtest: migration: Add migrate_incoming_qmp helper Fabiano Rosas
2023-03-30 18:03 ` [RFC PATCH v1 04/26] tests/qtest: migration-test: Add tests for file-based migration Fabiano Rosas
2023-03-30 18:03 ` [RFC PATCH v1 05/26] migration: Initial support of fixed-ram feature for analyze-migration.py Fabiano Rosas
2023-03-30 18:03 ` [RFC PATCH v1 06/26] io: add and implement QIO_CHANNEL_FEATURE_SEEKABLE for channel file Fabiano Rosas
2023-03-30 18:03 ` [RFC PATCH v1 07/26] io: Add generic pwritev/preadv interface Fabiano Rosas
2023-03-30 18:03 ` [RFC PATCH v1 08/26] io: implement io_pwritev/preadv for QIOChannelFile Fabiano Rosas
2023-03-30 18:03 ` [RFC PATCH v1 09/26] migration/qemu-file: add utility methods for working with seekable channels Fabiano Rosas
2023-03-30 18:03 ` [RFC PATCH v1 10/26] migration/ram: Introduce 'fixed-ram' migration stream capability Fabiano Rosas
2023-03-30 22:01 ` Peter Xu
2023-03-31 7:56 ` Daniel P. Berrangé
2023-03-31 14:39 ` Peter Xu
2023-03-31 15:34 ` Daniel P. Berrangé
2023-03-31 16:13 ` Peter Xu
2023-03-31 15:05 ` Fabiano Rosas
2023-03-31 5:50 ` Markus Armbruster
2023-03-30 18:03 ` [RFC PATCH v1 11/26] migration: Refactor precopy ram loading code Fabiano Rosas
2023-03-30 18:03 ` [RFC PATCH v1 12/26] migration: Add support for 'fixed-ram' migration restore Fabiano Rosas
2023-03-30 18:03 ` [RFC PATCH v1 13/26] tests/qtest: migration-test: Add tests for fixed-ram file-based migration Fabiano Rosas
2023-03-30 18:03 ` [RFC PATCH v1 14/26] migration: Add completion tracepoint Fabiano Rosas
2023-03-30 18:03 ` [RFC PATCH v1 15/26] migration/multifd: Remove direct "socket" references Fabiano Rosas
2023-03-30 18:03 ` [RFC PATCH v1 16/26] migration/multifd: Allow multifd without packets Fabiano Rosas
2023-03-30 18:03 ` [RFC PATCH v1 17/26] migration/multifd: Add outgoing QIOChannelFile support Fabiano Rosas
2023-03-30 18:03 ` [RFC PATCH v1 18/26] migration/multifd: Add incoming " Fabiano Rosas
2023-03-30 18:03 ` [RFC PATCH v1 19/26] migration/multifd: Add pages to the receiving side Fabiano Rosas
2023-03-30 18:03 ` [RFC PATCH v1 20/26] io: Add a pwritev/preadv version that takes a discontiguous iovec Fabiano Rosas
2023-03-30 18:03 ` [RFC PATCH v1 21/26] migration/ram: Add a wrapper for fixed-ram shadow bitmap Fabiano Rosas
2023-03-30 18:03 ` [RFC PATCH v1 22/26] migration/multifd: Support outgoing fixed-ram stream format Fabiano Rosas
2023-03-30 18:03 ` [RFC PATCH v1 23/26] migration/multifd: Support incoming " Fabiano Rosas
2023-03-30 18:03 ` [RFC PATCH v1 24/26] tests/qtest: Add a multifd + fixed-ram migration test Fabiano Rosas
2023-03-30 18:03 ` [RFC PATCH v1 25/26] migration: Add direct-io parameter Fabiano Rosas
2023-03-30 18:03 ` [RFC PATCH v1 26/26] tests/migration/guestperf: Add file, fixed-ram and direct-io support Fabiano Rosas
2023-03-30 21:41 ` [RFC PATCH v1 00/26] migration: File based migration with multifd and fixed-ram Peter Xu
2023-03-31 14:37 ` Fabiano Rosas
2023-03-31 14:52 ` Peter Xu
2023-03-31 15:30 ` Fabiano Rosas
2023-03-31 15:55 ` Peter Xu
2023-03-31 16:10 ` Daniel P. Berrangé
2023-03-31 16:27 ` Peter Xu
2023-03-31 18:18 ` Fabiano Rosas
2023-03-31 21:52 ` Peter Xu
2023-04-03 7:47 ` Claudio Fontana
2023-04-03 19:26 ` Peter Xu
2023-04-04 8:00 ` Claudio Fontana
2023-04-04 14:53 ` Peter Xu
2023-04-04 15:10 ` Claudio Fontana
2023-04-04 15:56 ` Peter Xu
2023-04-06 16:46 ` Fabiano Rosas
2023-04-07 10:36 ` Claudio Fontana
2023-04-11 15:48 ` Peter Xu
2023-04-18 16:58 ` Daniel P. Berrangé
2023-04-18 19:26 ` Peter Xu
2023-04-19 17:12 ` Daniel P. Berrangé
2023-04-19 19:07 ` Peter Xu
2023-04-20 9:02 ` Daniel P. Berrangé
2023-04-20 19:19 ` Peter Xu
2023-04-21 7:48 ` Daniel P. Berrangé
2023-04-21 13:56 ` Peter Xu
2023-03-31 15:46 ` Daniel P. Berrangé
2023-04-03 7:38 ` David Hildenbrand
2023-04-03 14:41 ` Fabiano Rosas [this message]
2023-04-03 16:24 ` David Hildenbrand
2023-04-03 16:36 ` Fabiano Rosas
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