From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.0 (2014-02-07) on aws-us-west-2-korg-lkml-1.web.codeaurora.org Received: from lists.gnu.org (lists.gnu.org [209.51.188.17]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by smtp.lore.kernel.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 46AB8C4332F for ; Tue, 13 Dec 2022 16:39:00 +0000 (UTC) Received: from localhost ([::1] helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1p58Iu-0001yp-P2; Tue, 13 Dec 2022 11:38:52 -0500 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1p58It-0001tq-17 for qemu-devel@nongnu.org; Tue, 13 Dec 2022 11:38:51 -0500 Received: from mail-wr1-x42b.google.com ([2a00:1450:4864:20::42b]) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_128_GCM_SHA256:128) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1p58Iq-0003wB-Ui for qemu-devel@nongnu.org; Tue, 13 Dec 2022 11:38:50 -0500 Received: by mail-wr1-x42b.google.com with SMTP id co23so16253738wrb.4 for ; Tue, 13 Dec 2022 08:38:48 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=linaro.org; s=google; h=content-transfer-encoding:mime-version:message-id:in-reply-to:date :subject:cc:to:from:user-agent:references:from:to:cc:subject:date :message-id:reply-to; bh=k3vrZMmcuXuHoUZFq5C3pZCRcyAQsO045vEE9Dg2nvs=; b=TelZBdo3AkCEWutz3BIEuUE8WHCDDr4aV7Bv/jRogZ1f7RU0ypW4MT3dnItMZ7rvNY oy9d9YrBdXle/V94pAM2HTaLb4FJvFy2rflcw3fhHwQVXJXUcACw11Y9VcGgOa4BxSCr /16TWhWP4nd06+IRYZkNDxTfeTW9hEutczp4Vs2CkAQXSPtrImH6lAge+A38chaWgLEU wcWjgUZSq5ltvC/eOx58KtZBPDredb7bHf4t7Cy6neB0dpHDCYW6SE1rohSxe1ZAcl8D 0xkttNYPuH534Ii2iV4bWgsNTRE06L/uY/MLVt1YD4rO+vKRBLPwqTyrkOrkiDC+MJAH hf1Q== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20210112; h=content-transfer-encoding:mime-version:message-id:in-reply-to:date :subject:cc:to:from:user-agent:references:x-gm-message-state:from:to :cc:subject:date:message-id:reply-to; bh=k3vrZMmcuXuHoUZFq5C3pZCRcyAQsO045vEE9Dg2nvs=; b=Xp8YzKmeJwzyZuWD6JccgPJb9GTAr8zwIXDd1eTaCElGM50qNmCqK/EaxY3dDutt6N XDv7Wa2XspjUyloy/u8OeksTL2WQMnIDZ1Gc6nEx8rzaGVPPFDamsn+Y53eevzvjCykU KVBf+zCOJks6lRf1uZNISiy/pb2p3nngKjW4ufyh1amc+eFk9O6MMVTsUBFoGHl4+psl xdBKIp4HP975/ChAMVVG/91hjqhBPSWqbb94x4LdOZclBnWZddSWCyrq3+n8B+9kpDZ1 jcG7wWHZepUZVPU6PxF282aqtBxFw/uOwY+8uefwE8mSz5OmVeF/e32d4qrNeCZn18fC qnzQ== X-Gm-Message-State: ANoB5plfGE87GOhIx1bUzNn3PCxwUu/wyOx6A+VEsDnywqfTG41TLcXp p7ZPh5q/F41NumVc4ssl+tUTwQ== X-Google-Smtp-Source: AA0mqf4V2RJoiu+6eFXwQpFQUyFYhlyhC+MZwC9UYN+S1RLXEra59uX4HCU/OPsR2tT6MxCjPEOSkg== X-Received: by 2002:adf:edc6:0:b0:242:43d1:6d8a with SMTP id v6-20020adfedc6000000b0024243d16d8amr14514118wro.59.1670949526995; Tue, 13 Dec 2022 08:38:46 -0800 (PST) Received: from zen.linaroharston ([185.81.254.11]) by smtp.gmail.com with ESMTPSA id d1-20020adffd81000000b0023662d97130sm250561wrr.20.2022.12.13.08.38.46 (version=TLS1_3 cipher=TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 bits=256/256); Tue, 13 Dec 2022 08:38:46 -0800 (PST) Received: from zen (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zen.linaroharston (Postfix) with ESMTP id EF3C31FFB7; Tue, 13 Dec 2022 16:38:45 +0000 (GMT) References: <936e1ac4-cef8-08b4-c688-e5b1e057208b@linaro.org> <1ac96aab-c5c4-b539-956c-d2923e6d8602@linaro.org> <87sfhjxrwz.fsf@secure.mitica> User-agent: mu4e 1.9.6; emacs 29.0.60 From: Alex =?utf-8?Q?Benn=C3=A9e?= To: quintela@redhat.com Cc: Philippe =?utf-8?Q?Mathieu-Daud=C3=A9?= , =?utf-8?Q?Daniel_P=2E_Berrang=C3=A9?= , John Snow , Mark Burton , "Dr. David Alan Gilbert" , Paolo Bonzini , Markus Armbruster , Eduardo Habkost , "Edgar E. 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Lunev" , Cleber Rosa , Stefan Hajnoczi , Eduardo Habkost , qemu-devel , =?utf-8?Q?Marc-Andr=C3=A9?= Lureau , Dominik Csapak , Christophe de Dinechin , Gerd Hoffmann , Kashyap Chamarthy , Mark Cave-Ayland , Jagannathan Raman , Elena Ufimtseva , John G Johnson , Dongli Zhang , afaerber@suse.de, andrea.arcangeli@redhat.com, bazulay@redhat.com, bbauman@redhat.com, cjia@nvidia.com, cw@f00f.org, digitaleric@google.com, dustin.kirkland@canonical.com, Eric Blake , Eric Auger , felipe@nutanix.com, iggy@theiggy.com, Jan Kiszka , Jason Gunthorpe , jidong.xiao@gmail.com, jjherne@linux.vnet.ibm.com, Joao Martins , mburton@qti.qualcom.com, mdean@redhat.com, mimu@linux.vnet.ibm.com, z.huo@139.com, zwu.kernel@gmail.com, Laurent Vivier Subject: Re: Single system binary & Dynamic machine model (KVM developers conference call 2022-12-13) Date: Tue, 13 Dec 2022 16:13:57 +0000 In-reply-to: <87sfhjxrwz.fsf@secure.mitica> Message-ID: <87359jl0mi.fsf@linaro.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Received-SPF: pass client-ip=2a00:1450:4864:20::42b; envelope-from=alex.bennee@linaro.org; helo=mail-wr1-x42b.google.com X-Spam_score_int: -20 X-Spam_score: -2.1 X-Spam_bar: -- X-Spam_report: (-2.1 / 5.0 requ) BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_EF=-0.1, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE=-0.0001, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001 autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no X-Spam_action: no action X-BeenThere: qemu-devel@nongnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: qemu-devel-bounces+qemu-devel=archiver.kernel.org@nongnu.org Sender: qemu-devel-bounces+qemu-devel=archiver.kernel.org@nongnu.org Juan Quintela writes: > Philippe Mathieu-Daud=C3=A9 wrote: >> On 12/12/22 00:41, Philippe Mathieu-Daud=C3=A9 wrote: >>> Hi, >>> In the last years we had few discussions on "simplifying" QEMU >>> (system emulation / virtualization), in particular for the >>> "management layer". >>> Some of us are interested in having QEMU able to dynamically create >>> machine models. Mark Burton's current approach is via a Python script >>> which generates QMP commands. This is just another case of "management >>> layer". >>> Various problems have been raised regarding the current limitations >>> of >>> QEMU's APIs. We'd like to remember / get a broader idea on these limits >>> and look at some ideas / proposals which have been discussed / posted >>> on this list. >>> Feel free to complete your thoughts on this public etherpad: >>> https://etherpad.opendev.org/p/qemu-emulation-bof%402022-12-13 >>> Topic I remember which can be good starters: >>> - Current limitations of QAPI (& QMP) model (Markus Armbruster) >>> - Adding a new qemu-runtime-$TARGET / QMP-only binary without >>> today's >>> =C2=A0 limitations (Daniel P. Berrang=C3=A9 & Paolo Bonzini) >>> - Problem with x-exit-preconfig, reworking MachinePhaseInit state >>> =C2=A0 machine (Paolo Bonzini) >>> Markus / Daniel / Paolo expressed their ideas on the list (the >>> historical threads are referenced in the etherpad) so reading the >>> relevant threads before the call will help to get in the topic. >>> These people don't have to be in the call, but if they can attend >>> that would be very nice :) >>> The call will be Tuesday, December 13 at 3pm CET on this Bluejeans >>> link: >>> http://bluejeans.com/quintela >> We moved the call here: >> >> https://teams.microsoft.com/_#/pre-join-calling/19:meeting_MjU2NDhkOGYtO= GY5ZC00MzRjLWJjNjgtYWI2ODQxZGExMWNj@thread.v2 > > Hi > > First of all I am sorry that my calendar/alarm system failed me. I tried starting as a moderator myself but it needed a login. Is the pass code personal to you or the meeting? Would it be worth adding the pass code to the meeting details for the future. > Once thold that, I have been unable to go from that link to a meet room: > - on android phone with chrome > - on android phone with firefox > - on linux host with firefox (and teams installed) > - on linux host with chrome (and teams installed) > > As everybody says, it got going for indirection to indirection and at > the end (if lucky) I ended on the teams app without a room name/id. Mine worked OK with Linux Chrome in web only mode. As a fallback someone did post: https://play.workadventu.re/@/qemu/main/hq a while back. More traditionally: https://meet.jit.si/ allows you to create meetings without sign-up. > > Later, Juan. --=20 Alex Benn=C3=A9e