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From: Anthony Liguori <anthony@codemonkey.ws>
To: Peter Maydell <peter.maydell@linaro.org>
Cc: "Rusty Russell" <rusty@rustcorp.com.au>,
	"Andreas Färber" <afaerber@suse.de>,
	qemu-devel@nongnu.org
Subject: Re: [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 1/7] virtio: allow byte swapping for vring and config access
Date: Thu, 08 Aug 2013 11:25:22 -0500	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <8738qkdua5.fsf@codemonkey.ws> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAFEAcA9VS4CQWmAKBxcPNd4R-MUp1E_JRu9rjwXF-zO-oa6UOg@mail.gmail.com>

Peter Maydell <peter.maydell@linaro.org> writes:

> On 8 August 2013 17:07, Anthony Liguori <anthony@codemonkey.ws> wrote:
>> It's the same processor.  It still starts executing big endian
>> instructions.  A magic register value is tweaked and loads/stores are
>> swapped.
>
> I dunno about PPC, but for ARM generally the boot-up state is
> controlled by config signals which a SoC or board can hardwire,
> so you can have a SoC which is configured to start in big-endian
> mode.
>
>> CPU data structures are still read as big endian though.
>
> Do you have an example of what you mean by "CPU data structure"?

MMU tlb hash table.  If you grep ldl target-ppc/* you'll see that there
are only a few cases where bswap occurs.

>> The distinction is important in QEMU.  ppc64 is still
>> TARGET_WORDS_BIGENDIAN.
>
> Ideally TARGET_WORDS_BIGENDIAN would go away -- it is forcing
> at compile time a setting which is actually a runtime one,
> and a lot of the weirdness here flows from that.
>
>> We still want most stl_phys to treat integers
>> as big endian.
>
> Any stl_phys() should [in an ideal design] be tied to a
> "bus master" which has its own idea of which endianness
> it is. That is, an stl_phys() for a DMA controller model
> ought to use the endianness programmed for the DMA controller,
> not whatever the CPU happens to be using.

We have the DMA API that attempts to do this but maybe we need to
generalize it a bit more...

I think it's pretty true that we need a context and that the context
for, say instruction fetch, is distinct from the context for load/store
instructions.

Regards,

Anthony Liguori

>
> -- PMM

  reply	other threads:[~2013-08-08 16:25 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 43+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2013-08-08  5:15 [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 0/7] Virtio support for endian-curious guests Rusty Russell
2013-08-08  5:15 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 1/7] virtio: allow byte swapping for vring and config access Rusty Russell
2013-08-08 13:31   ` Anthony Liguori
2013-08-08 14:28     ` Andreas Färber
2013-08-08 15:40       ` Anthony Liguori
2013-08-08 15:45         ` Daniel P. Berrange
2013-08-08 16:07           ` Anthony Liguori
2013-08-08 16:14             ` Peter Maydell
2013-08-08 16:25               ` Anthony Liguori [this message]
2013-08-08 16:30                 ` Peter Maydell
2013-08-09  2:58             ` Rusty Russell
2013-08-09  4:39               ` Anton Blanchard
2013-08-09  8:05               ` Peter Maydell
2013-08-09 14:16               ` Anthony Liguori
2013-08-08 15:48         ` Peter Maydell
2013-08-08 16:11           ` Anthony Liguori
2013-08-08 16:24         ` Andreas Färber
2013-08-09  7:35           ` Rusty Russell
2013-08-09  7:42             ` Peter Maydell
2013-08-12  7:49               ` Rusty Russell
2013-08-09  7:49             ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2013-08-12  0:28               ` Rusty Russell
2013-08-12  0:49                 ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2013-08-09 15:15             ` Andreas Färber
2013-08-09  0:08       ` Rusty Russell
2013-08-09  7:00       ` Rusty Russell
2013-08-09 14:24         ` Andreas Färber
2013-08-09  6:40     ` Rusty Russell
2013-08-09 14:10       ` Anthony Liguori
2013-08-11 23:46         ` Rusty Russell
2013-08-08  5:15 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 2/7] target-ppc: ppc64 targets can be either endian Rusty Russell
2013-08-08  5:15 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 3/7] hw/net/virtio-net: use virtio wrappers to access headers Rusty Russell
2013-08-08 13:32   ` Anthony Liguori
2013-08-08  5:15 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 4/7] hw/net/virtio-balloon: use virtio wrappers to access page frame numbers Rusty Russell
2013-08-08 13:32   ` Anthony Liguori
2013-08-08  5:15 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 5/7] hw/block/virtio-blk: use virtio wrappers to access headers Rusty Russell
2013-08-08  9:57   ` Peter Maydell
2013-08-08 13:32   ` Anthony Liguori
2013-08-08  5:15 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 6/7] hw/scsi/virtio-scsi: " Rusty Russell
2013-08-08 13:33   ` Anthony Liguori
2013-08-08  5:15 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 7/7] hw/char/virtio-serial-bus: " Rusty Russell
2013-08-08 13:34   ` Anthony Liguori
2013-08-08  5:15 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 7/7] patch virtio-serial-biendian.patch Rusty Russell

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