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From: Anthony Liguori <aliguori@us.ibm.com>
To: Paolo Bonzini <pbonzini@redhat.com>,
	Luiz Capitulino <lcapitulino@redhat.com>
Cc: qemu-devel@nongnu.org, Gerd Hoffmann <kraxel@redhat.com>,
	Markus Armbruster <armbru@redhat.com>
Subject: Re: [Qemu-devel] [RfC PATCH 0/5] console: qom-ify & extent screendump monitor command
Date: Mon, 22 Apr 2013 11:49:58 -0500	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <8738uiqzm1.fsf@codemonkey.ws> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <51753471.5080803@redhat.com>

Paolo Bonzini <pbonzini@redhat.com> writes:

> Il 22/04/2013 14:50, Luiz Capitulino ha scritto:
>> On Mon, 22 Apr 2013 11:37:15 +0200
>> Paolo Bonzini <pbonzini@redhat.com> wrote:
>> 
>>> Il 22/04/2013 08:55, Gerd Hoffmann ha scritto:
>>>>>>>> Question for the libvirt guys:  Is it ok for libvirt to just extend the
>>>>>>>> existing screendump command?  Can libvirt figure there is a new
>>>>>>>> (optional) parameter?  See patch #5.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Nope, QMP can't do that.  I argued for such capabilities, but the
>>>>>> "create a new command" philosophy prevailed.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Go forth and multiply commands!  And have fun picking command names that
>>>>>> aren't fugly.
>>>> Oh joy.  Lets just enumerate things & use "screendump2" ...
>>>
>>> QMP can't do that _yet_.
>>>
>>> Let's fix it instead...
>> 
>> The point is that we have chosen not to do so a while ago. In a nutshell,
>> Anthony thinks that we should have the same compatibility contract of
>> a C API.
>
> We've been adding fields to types since 0.15, sometimes in the middle of
> a struct (since 1.2).

You can safely add fields to the end of a struct.  If you think about it
in terms of a shipped qmp.h file, it would be:

struct CharInfo
{
};

CharInfo *qmp_query_char(QMPSession *session, Error **errp);

But adding parameters to functions breaks the ABI and there's no way
around unless you make all parameters passed as a single structure.

> If the C API is a requirement, it should also be
> a requirement for structs.  But there are plenty of ways (some nicer,
> some uglier) to have different API versions in C.
>
> For example, I think the QIDL patch had ways to annotate each parameter
> independently.  You can annotate each argument with the "first version
> this appeared in" and complicate the C API generator to generate
> multiple C functions for the same command.
>
> It is then the downstream's responsibility not to backport extra
> arguments without a full-blown rebase to a newer version (the same as
> for C libraries).

Well this is all well and good in abstract, in practice, we want a new
screendump command anyway.

It'd be *much* nicer to return the screenshot data via the QMP session
instead of writing it to a file.  So let's take the opportunity to fix
the command.

We can also introduce a "format" parameter to allow specifying formats
othe than PPM.

Regards,

Anthony Liguori

>
> Paolo

  reply	other threads:[~2013-04-22 16:51 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 28+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2013-04-18  9:01 [Qemu-devel] [RfC PATCH 0/5] console: qom-ify & extent screendump monitor command Gerd Hoffmann
2013-04-18  9:01 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 1/5] console: qom-ify QemuConsole Gerd Hoffmann
2013-04-18  9:01 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 2/5] console: Hook QemuConsoles into qom tree Gerd Hoffmann
2013-04-18  9:01 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 3/5] console: add device link to QemuConsoles Gerd Hoffmann
2013-04-18  9:01 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 4/5] console: add qemu_console_lookup_by_device Gerd Hoffmann
2013-04-18  9:01 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 5/5] console: extend screendump monitor cmd Gerd Hoffmann
2013-04-18 12:10 ` [Qemu-devel] [RfC PATCH 0/5] console: qom-ify & extent screendump monitor command Eric Blake
2013-04-18 15:21   ` Luiz Capitulino
2013-04-18 15:34     ` Eric Blake
2013-04-22  7:19       ` Gerd Hoffmann
2013-04-19  8:37 ` Markus Armbruster
2013-04-19 13:03   ` Eric Blake
2013-04-22  6:55   ` Gerd Hoffmann
2013-04-22  9:37     ` Paolo Bonzini
2013-04-22 12:50       ` Luiz Capitulino
2013-04-22 13:00         ` Paolo Bonzini
2013-04-22 16:49           ` Anthony Liguori [this message]
2013-04-22 17:03             ` Paolo Bonzini
2013-04-22 17:23               ` Eric Blake
2013-04-23  5:15                 ` Gerd Hoffmann
2013-04-22 17:56               ` Anthony Liguori
2013-04-23 11:57                 ` Gerd Hoffmann
2013-04-25 20:55 ` Anthony Liguori
2013-04-25 21:17   ` Luiz Capitulino
2013-04-25 21:55     ` Eric Blake
2013-04-25 22:19       ` Anthony Liguori
2013-04-25 22:19     ` Anthony Liguori
2013-04-26  0:41       ` Luiz Capitulino

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