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From: Markus Armbruster <armbru@redhat.com>
To: Anthony Liguori <anthony@codemonkey.ws>
Cc: Gerd Hoffmann <kraxel@redhat.com>,
	Paul Brook <paul@codesourcery.com>,
	qemu-devel@nongnu.org
Subject: Re: [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 4/8] qdev/core: bus list
Date: Wed, 01 Jul 2009 02:12:35 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <873a9hw9ak.fsf@pike.pond.sub.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <4A4A6C48.3060101@codemonkey.ws> (Anthony Liguori's message of "Tue\, 30 Jun 2009 14\:49\:28 -0500")

Anthony Liguori <anthony@codemonkey.ws> writes:

> Markus Armbruster wrote:
>> Paul Brook <paul@codesourcery.com> writes:
>>
>>   
>>> On Tuesday 30 June 2009, Markus Armbruster wrote:
>>>     
>>>> Paul Brook <paul@codesourcery.com> writes:
>>>>       
>>>>> On Tuesday 30 June 2009, Gerd Hoffmann wrote:
>>>>>         
>>>>>>  * maintain a list of busses.
>>>>>>  * maintain bus numbers.
>>>>>>  * add function to find busses by type / name / number.
>>>>>>  * add monitor command to list busses.
>>>>>>           
>>>>> I still object to this patch. Busses should be identified by their
>>>>> location in the tree, not by number.
>>>>>
>>>>> Paul
>>>>>         
>>>> Location in the tree can be uniquely identified by a number.  Handy when
>>>> all you want is enumerate the buses, and you don't really care where
>>>> they're hanging out in the tree.  Why should something like that not be
>>>> done?
>>>>       
>>> The address of the BusState is also a locally unique
>>> identifier. That doesn't mean it's a good thing to expose to the
>>> user.
>>>
>>> Paul
>>>     
>>
>> Red herring.
>>   
>
> I don't think that's a very useful response.
>
> I think it's a perfectly valid suggestion that we should identify
> buses based on the their location in the tree to users verses a number
> generated based on some hashing algorithm.
>
> A tree location has meaning to a user.  A random integer doesn't.

Numbering nodes according to a well-defined tree traversal is not
random.  We can discuss whether using such a number in an interface is a
good idea (nobody suggested to use it *instead* of tree paths).
Rejecting the idea by comparing it to some internal address, however, is
not a very useful contribution to such a discussion.

But I figure I'm wasting my time and yours, so I'll shut up now.

  parent reply	other threads:[~2009-07-01  0:14 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 22+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2009-06-30  9:25 [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 0/7] qdev patches, batch #1 Gerd Hoffmann
2009-06-30  9:25 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 1/8] qdev: update pci device registration Gerd Hoffmann
2009-06-30  9:25 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 2/8] qdev: replace bus_type enum with bus_info struct Gerd Hoffmann
2009-06-30  9:25 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 3/8] qdev: remove DeviceType Gerd Hoffmann
2009-06-30  9:25 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 4/8] qdev/core: bus list Gerd Hoffmann
2009-06-30 11:18   ` Paul Brook
2009-06-30 16:55     ` Markus Armbruster
2009-06-30 17:21       ` Paul Brook
2009-06-30 19:26         ` Markus Armbruster
2009-06-30 19:49           ` Anthony Liguori
2009-06-30 20:18             ` Gerd Hoffmann
2009-06-30 20:36               ` Anthony Liguori
2009-07-01  0:25               ` Paul Brook
2009-07-01  6:32                 ` Gerd Hoffmann
2009-07-01  0:12             ` Markus Armbruster [this message]
2009-07-01  0:29               ` Paul Brook
2009-06-30  9:25 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 5/8] qdev/core: add monitor command to list all drivers Gerd Hoffmann
2009-06-30  9:26 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 6/8] qdev/pci: misc fixes Gerd Hoffmann
2009-06-30 11:25   ` Paul Brook
2009-06-30 16:51     ` Markus Armbruster
2009-06-30  9:26 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 7/8] qdev: convert es1370 Gerd Hoffmann
2009-06-30  9:26 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 8/8] qdev: convert ac97 Gerd Hoffmann

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