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From: Markus Armbruster <armbru@redhat.com>
To: "Daniel P. Berrangé" <berrange@redhat.com>
Cc: Fabiano Rosas <farosas@suse.de>,
	 qemu-devel@nongnu.org,  Peter Xu <peterx@redhat.com>
Subject: Re: [RFC PATCH 00/13] migration: Unify capabilities and parameters
Date: Wed, 16 Apr 2025 15:44:10 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <874iyomdat.fsf@pond.sub.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <Z_07dfI4rFRpvZA1@redhat.com> ("Daniel P. Berrangé"'s message of "Mon, 14 Apr 2025 17:44:37 +0100")

Daniel P. Berrangé <berrange@redhat.com> writes:

> On Fri, Apr 11, 2025 at 04:14:30PM -0300, Fabiano Rosas wrote:
>> Open questions:
>> ---------------
>> 
>> - Deprecations/compat?
>> 
>> I think we should deprecate migrate-set/query-capabilities and everything to do
>> with capabilities (specifically the validation in the JSON at the end of the
>> stream).
>> 
>> For migrate-set/query-parameters, we could probably keep it around indefinitely,
>> but it'd be convenient to introduce new commands so we can give them new
>> semantics.
>> 
>> - How to restrict the options that should not be set when the migration is in
>> progress?
>> 
>> i.e.:
>>   all options can be set before migration (initial config)
>>   some options can be set during migration (runtime)
>> 
>> I thought of adding another type at the top of the hierarchy, with
>> just the options allowed to change at runtime, but that doesn't really
>> stop the others being also set at runtime. I'd need a way to have a
>> set of options that are rejected 'if migration_is_running()', without
>> adding more duplication all around.
>> 
>> - What about savevm?
>> 
>> None of this solves the issue of random caps/params being set before
>> calling savevm. We still need to special-case savevm and reject
>> everything. Unless we entirely deprecate setting initial options via
>> set-parameters (or set-config) and require all options to be set as
>> savevm (and migrate) arguments.
>
> I'd suggest we aim for a world where the commands take all options
> as direct args and try to remove the global state eventually.

Yes.

Even better: make it a job.

[...]



  parent reply	other threads:[~2025-04-16 13:45 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 44+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2025-04-11 19:14 [RFC PATCH 00/13] migration: Unify capabilities and parameters Fabiano Rosas
2025-04-11 19:14 ` [RFC PATCH 01/13] migration: Fix latent bug in migrate_params_test_apply() Fabiano Rosas
2025-04-11 19:14 ` [RFC PATCH 02/13] migration: Normalize tls arguments Fabiano Rosas
2025-04-14 16:30   ` Daniel P. Berrangé
2025-04-11 19:14 ` [RFC PATCH 03/13] migration: Run a post update routine after setting parameters Fabiano Rosas
2025-05-15 20:42   ` Peter Xu
2025-04-11 19:14 ` [RFC PATCH 04/13] migration: Fix parameter validation Fabiano Rosas
2025-05-15 20:59   ` Peter Xu
2025-05-22 16:39     ` Fabiano Rosas
2025-05-22 17:39       ` Fabiano Rosas
2025-05-26 13:09         ` Peter Xu
2025-05-26 15:41           ` Fabiano Rosas
2025-04-11 19:14 ` [RFC PATCH 05/13] migration: Reduce a bit of duplication in migration.json Fabiano Rosas
2025-04-14 16:38   ` Daniel P. Berrangé
2025-04-14 17:02     ` Fabiano Rosas
2025-04-16 13:38       ` Markus Armbruster
2025-04-16 14:41         ` Fabiano Rosas
2025-04-17  5:56           ` Markus Armbruster
2025-04-17 18:45   ` Markus Armbruster
2025-04-18  6:40     ` Markus Armbruster
2025-04-11 19:14 ` [RFC PATCH 06/13] migration: Remove the parameters copy during validation Fabiano Rosas
2025-04-11 19:14 ` [RFC PATCH 07/13] migration: Introduce new MigrationConfig structure Fabiano Rosas
2025-04-18  7:03   ` Markus Armbruster
2025-05-23 13:38     ` Fabiano Rosas
2025-05-26  7:37       ` Markus Armbruster
2025-04-11 19:14 ` [RFC PATCH 08/13] migration: Replace s->parameters with s->config Fabiano Rosas
2025-04-11 19:14 ` [RFC PATCH 09/13] migration: Do away with usage of QERR_INVALID_PARAMETER_VALUE Fabiano Rosas
2025-04-11 19:14 ` [RFC PATCH 10/13] migration: Replace s->capabilities with s->config Fabiano Rosas
2025-04-11 19:14 ` [RFC PATCH 11/13] migration: Merge parameters and capability checks Fabiano Rosas
2025-04-11 19:14 ` [RFC PATCH 12/13] [PoC] migration: Add query/set commands for MigrationConfig Fabiano Rosas
2025-05-26  7:51   ` Markus Armbruster
2025-05-27 22:14     ` Fabiano Rosas
2025-04-11 19:14 ` [RFC PATCH 13/13] [PoC] migration: Allow migrate commands to provide the migration config Fabiano Rosas
2025-05-26  8:03   ` Markus Armbruster
2025-05-26 15:10     ` Peter Xu
2025-04-14 16:44 ` [RFC PATCH 00/13] migration: Unify capabilities and parameters Daniel P. Berrangé
2025-04-14 17:12   ` Fabiano Rosas
2025-04-14 17:20     ` Daniel P. Berrangé
2025-04-14 17:40       ` Fabiano Rosas
2025-04-14 19:06         ` Daniel P. Berrangé
2025-05-15 20:21         ` Peter Xu
2025-04-16 13:44   ` Markus Armbruster [this message]
2025-04-16 15:00     ` Fabiano Rosas
2025-04-24  9:35       ` Markus Armbruster

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