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From: Fabiano Rosas <farosas@suse.de>
To: Peter Xu <peterx@redhat.com>
Cc: "Philippe Mathieu-Daudé" <philmd@linaro.org>,
	qemu-devel@nongnu.org, qemu-block@nongnu.org,
	"Laurent Vivier" <lvivier@redhat.com>,
	"Tyrone Ting" <kfting@nuvoton.com>,
	"Bin Meng" <bmeng.cn@gmail.com>, "Hao Wu" <wuhaotsh@google.com>,
	"Francisco Iglesias" <francisco.iglesias@amd.com>,
	"Paolo Bonzini" <pbonzini@redhat.com>,
	"Thomas Huth" <thuth@redhat.com>,
	"Cédric Le Goater" <clg@kaod.org>,
	qemu-arm@nongnu.org, "Joel Stanley" <joel@jms.id.au>,
	"Sai Pavan Boddu" <sai.pavan.boddu@amd.com>,
	devel@lists.libvirt.org, "Luc Michel" <luc.michel@amd.com>,
	"Cédric Le Goater" <clg@redhat.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v3 06/17] hw/sd/sdcard: Do not store vendor data on block drive (CMD56)
Date: Wed, 10 Jul 2024 13:21:51 -0300	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <874j8xfc9s.fsf@suse.de> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <Zo6iZjc8YpI1_9dW@x1n>

Peter Xu <peterx@redhat.com> writes:

> On Wed, Jul 10, 2024 at 11:08:20AM -0300, Fabiano Rosas wrote:
>> >> I think it's ok:
>> >> 
>> >> {
>> >>   "field": "unused",
>> >>   "version_id": 1,
>> >>   "field_exists": false,
>> >>   "size": 512
>> >> },
>> >> 
>> >> vs.
>> >> 
>> >> {
>> >>   "field": "vendor_data",
>> >>   "version_id": 0,
>> >>   "field_exists": false,
>> >>   "num": 512,
>> >>   "size": 1
>> >> },
>> >> 
>> >> The unused field was introduced in 2016 so there's no chance of
>> >> migrating a QEMU that old to/from 9.1.
>> >
>> > What happens if an old qemu 9.0 sends rubbish here to a new QEMU, while the
>> > new QEMU would consider it meaningful data?
>> 
>> It will send zeros, no? The code will have to cope with that. The
>> alternative is to put the vendor_data in a subsection and the code will
>> also have to cope with the lack of data when the old QEMU doesn't send
>> it.
>
> Ah indeed, that "static const uint8_t buf[1024]" is there at least since
> 2017.  So yes, probably always sending zeros.

@Philippe, can vendor_data be 0 after migration? Otherwise 9.0 -> 9.1
migration might crash.

>
> Nothing I can think of otherwise indeed, if we want to trust that nothing
> will migrate before 2016.  It's just that we may want to know how that
> "2016" is justified to be safe if we would like to allow that in the
> future.

It's not about trust, we simply don't support migrations other than
n->n+1 and (maybe) n->n-1. So QEMU from 2016 is certainly not included.

>
> One thing _could_ be that "rule of thumb" is we plan to obsolete machines
> with 6 years, so anything "UNUSED" older than 6 years can be over-written?


  reply	other threads:[~2024-07-10 16:23 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 35+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2024-06-27 16:22 [PATCH v3 00/17] hw/sd/sdcard: Accumulation of cleanups and fixes Philippe Mathieu-Daudé
2024-06-27 16:22 ` [PATCH v3 01/17] hw/sd/sdcard: Deprecate support for spec v1.10 Philippe Mathieu-Daudé
2024-06-27 16:22 ` [PATCH v3 02/17] hw/sd/sdcard: Use spec v3.01 by default Philippe Mathieu-Daudé
2024-06-27 16:22 ` [PATCH v3 03/17] hw/sd/sdcard: Track last command used to help logging Philippe Mathieu-Daudé
2024-06-27 16:22 ` [PATCH v3 04/17] hw/sd/sdcard: Trace block offset in READ/WRITE data accesses Philippe Mathieu-Daudé
2024-06-27 16:22 ` [PATCH v3 05/17] hw/sd/sdcard: Trace requested address computed by sd_req_get_address() Philippe Mathieu-Daudé
2024-06-27 16:22 ` [PATCH v3 06/17] hw/sd/sdcard: Do not store vendor data on block drive (CMD56) Philippe Mathieu-Daudé
2024-07-09 20:38   ` Fabiano Rosas
2024-07-09 21:01     ` Peter Xu
2024-07-10 14:08       ` Fabiano Rosas
2024-07-10 15:01         ` Peter Xu
2024-07-10 16:21           ` Fabiano Rosas [this message]
2024-07-10 19:13             ` Peter Xu
2024-07-10 19:48               ` Fabiano Rosas
2024-07-10 20:11                 ` Peter Xu
2024-07-10 21:38                   ` Fabiano Rosas
2024-07-10 22:06                     ` Peter Xu
2024-07-11 13:34                       ` Fabiano Rosas
2024-07-11 14:10                         ` Peter Xu
2024-07-11 14:44                           ` Fabiano Rosas
2024-07-11 14:56                             ` Peter Xu
2024-07-11 15:03                               ` Fabiano Rosas
2024-06-27 16:22 ` [PATCH v3 07/17] hw/sd/sdcard: Send WRITE_PROT bits MSB first (CMD30) Philippe Mathieu-Daudé
2024-06-27 16:22 ` [PATCH v3 08/17] hw/sd/sdcard: Send NUM_WR_BLOCKS bits MSB first (ACMD22) Philippe Mathieu-Daudé
2024-06-27 16:22 ` [PATCH v3 09/17] hw/sd/sdcard: Use READY_FOR_DATA definition instead of magic value Philippe Mathieu-Daudé
2024-06-27 16:22 ` [PATCH v3 10/17] hw/sd/sdcard: Assign SDCardStates enum values Philippe Mathieu-Daudé
2024-06-27 16:22 ` [PATCH v3 11/17] hw/sd/sdcard: Simplify sd_inactive_state handling Philippe Mathieu-Daudé
2024-06-27 16:22 ` [PATCH v3 12/17] hw/sd/sdcard: Restrict SWITCH_FUNCTION to sd_transfer_state (CMD6) Philippe Mathieu-Daudé
2024-06-27 16:22 ` [PATCH v3 13/17] hw/sd/sdcard: Add direct reference to SDProto in SDState Philippe Mathieu-Daudé
2024-06-27 16:22 ` [PATCH v3 14/17] hw/sd/sdcard: Extract sd_blk_len() helper Philippe Mathieu-Daudé
2024-06-27 16:22 ` [PATCH v3 15/17] tests/qtest: Disable npcm7xx_sdhci tests using hardcoded RCA Philippe Mathieu-Daudé
2024-06-27 16:47   ` Thomas Huth
2024-06-27 17:19     ` Philippe Mathieu-Daudé
2024-06-27 16:22 ` [PATCH v3 16/17] hw/sd/sdcard: Generate random RCA value Philippe Mathieu-Daudé
2024-06-27 16:22 ` [PATCH v3 17/17] hw/sd/sdcard: Introduce definitions for EXT_CSD register Philippe Mathieu-Daudé

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