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From: Markus Armbruster <armbru@redhat.com>
To: Akihiko Odaki <odaki@rsg.ci.i.u-tokyo.ac.jp>
Cc: qemu-devel@nongnu.org,  marcandre.lureau@redhat.com
Subject: Re: [PATCH 12/12] error: Kill @error_warn
Date: Sat, 09 Aug 2025 10:30:52 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <875xewucar.fsf@pond.sub.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <fcd5c891-b3c5-4b7d-a0ed-0e776d55ad5e@rsg.ci.i.u-tokyo.ac.jp> (Akihiko Odaki's message of "Sat, 9 Aug 2025 16:07:54 +0900")

Akihiko Odaki <odaki@rsg.ci.i.u-tokyo.ac.jp> writes:

> On 2025/08/08 17:08, Markus Armbruster wrote:
>> We added @error_warn some two years ago in commit 3ffef1a55ca (error:
>> add global &error_warn destination).  It has multiple issues:
>>
>> * error.h's big comment was not updated for it.
>>
>> * Function contracts were not updated for it.
>>
>> * ERRP_GUARD() is unaware of @error_warn, and fails to mask it from
>>    error_prepend() and such.  These crash on @error_warn, as pointed
>>    out by Akihiko Odaki.
>>
>> All fixable.  However, after more than two years, we had just of 15
>> uses, of which the last few patches removed eight as unclean or
>> otherwise undesirable.  I didn't look closely enough at the remaining
>> seven to decide whether they are desirable or not.
>>
>> I don't think this feature earns its keep.  Drop it.
>
> I want to note that the following patch series temporarily use &error_warn during its conversion to add errp parameters:
> https://lore.kernel.org/qemu-devel/20250808-propagate_tpm_error-v10-0-3e81a1d419b2@redhat.com/
> ("[PATCH v10 00/27] migration: propagate vTPM errors using Error objects")
>
> I think this series needs to be rebased on top of the migration change.

Thanks for the heads-up.

> I'm not sure if seven uses are insufficient to keep it.
>
> I also have a general impression that perhaps a special error destination for error_report_err() is more useful. Today, there are many functions use Error, but there are also functions that still follow old error handling patterns. When legacy functions call functions with Error, a common pattern is to use error_report_err() and return -1.

You mean like &error_fatal less the exit(1)?

> "[PATCH 01/12] monitor: Clean up HMP gdbserver error reporting" and "[PATCH 09/12] ui/pixman: Consistent error handling in qemu_pixman_shareable_free()" are examples that will benefit from error_report_err() as an error destination. The migration patch series I mentioned earlier can also use one.
>
> Perhaps it is nicer if there is an infrastructure shared by the special destinations. In particular, we can have common solutions for the three problems you pointed out:
>
>> * error.h's big comment was not updated for it.
>>
>> * Function contracts were not updated for it.
>
> For these two problems, they can refer to "special error destinations" instead of listing them, and delegate explanations of them to corresponding ones.
>
>>
>> * ERRP_GUARD() is unaware of @error_warn, and fails to mask it from
>>   error_prepend() and such.  These crash on @error_warn, as pointed
>>   out by Akihiko Odaki.
>
> For this problem, Error can tell that it is a special destination by leaving msg NULL, for example. ERRP_GUARD() then rewrites errp it is not &error_abort and msg is NULL.

As I wrote, the defects are all fixable.  However, there has been so
little use of &error_warn, and so much of it has been unclean or
otherwise undesirable.  It's obviously prone to misuse.  I think we're
better off without it.

See also the memo "Abuse of warnings for unhandled errors and
programming errors" I posted yesterday.

> Special destinations can also have a function pointer void (*)(Error*), which will be called by error_handle(). This way, we can ensure that having a special destination will not require changes to the common code.
>
> By the way, I also asked for a comment with the migration patch series. Please reply the following if you have anything to say:
> https://lore.kernel.org/qemu-devel/9c552525-72fa-4d1e-89a2-b5c0e446935a@rsg.ci.i.u-tokyo.ac.jp/
>
> There is also an additional context:
> https://lore.kernel.org/qemu-devel/aJMsRBd9-XOMRG78@armenon-kvm.bengluru.csb/

I replied there.

I'll be on vacation the next two weeks.



  reply	other threads:[~2025-08-09  8:31 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 52+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2025-08-08  8:08 [PATCH 00/12] Error reporting cleanup, a fix, and &error_warn removal Markus Armbruster
2025-08-08  8:08 ` [PATCH 01/12] monitor: Clean up HMP gdbserver error reporting Markus Armbruster
2025-08-19 10:53   ` Daniel P. Berrangé
2025-09-09 11:22     ` Markus Armbruster
2025-08-08  8:08 ` [PATCH 02/12] tcg: Fix error reporting on mprotect() failure in tcg_region_init() Markus Armbruster
2025-08-08 14:00   ` Philippe Mathieu-Daudé
2025-08-19 10:56     ` Daniel P. Berrangé
2025-08-19 10:56   ` Daniel P. Berrangé
2025-08-08  8:08 ` [PATCH 03/12] hw/cxl: Convert cxl_fmws_link() to Error Markus Armbruster
2025-08-08 10:44   ` Jonathan Cameron via
2025-08-08 11:13     ` Markus Armbruster
2025-09-17 10:46       ` Markus Armbruster
2025-08-11 10:36   ` Philippe Mathieu-Daudé
2025-08-08  8:08 ` [PATCH 04/12] migration/cpr: Clean up error reporting in cpr_resave_fd() Markus Armbruster
2025-08-08 12:38   ` Steven Sistare
2025-08-08 13:55   ` Philippe Mathieu-Daudé
2025-08-08 14:08     ` Steven Sistare
2025-08-08 14:43       ` Markus Armbruster
2025-08-08 14:48         ` Steven Sistare
2025-08-08 15:04           ` Markus Armbruster
2025-08-08  8:08 ` [PATCH 05/12] hw/remote/vfio-user: Clean up error reporting Markus Armbruster
2025-08-08  8:08 ` [PATCH 06/12] net/slirp: " Markus Armbruster
2025-08-08  8:18   ` Marc-André Lureau
2025-08-19 11:10   ` Daniel P. Berrangé
2025-09-09 11:40     ` Markus Armbruster
2025-09-12 10:09       ` Daniel P. Berrangé
2025-08-08  8:08 ` [PATCH 07/12] ui/spice-core: " Markus Armbruster
2025-08-08  8:22   ` Marc-André Lureau
2025-08-19 11:15   ` Daniel P. Berrangé
2025-09-09 11:41     ` Markus Armbruster
2025-09-12 10:10       ` Daniel P. Berrangé
2025-08-08  8:08 ` [PATCH 08/12] util/oslib-win32: Revert warning on WSAEventSelect() failure Markus Armbruster
2025-08-08  8:22   ` Marc-André Lureau
2025-08-08  9:32     ` Markus Armbruster
2025-08-19 11:24   ` Daniel P. Berrangé
2025-09-09 11:50     ` Markus Armbruster
2025-09-12 10:13       ` Daniel P. Berrangé
2025-08-08  8:08 ` [PATCH 09/12] ui/pixman: Consistent error handling in qemu_pixman_shareable_free() Markus Armbruster
2025-08-08  8:16   ` Marc-André Lureau
2025-08-08  8:08 ` [PATCH 10/12] ui/dbus: Clean up dbus_update_gl_cb() error checking Markus Armbruster
2025-08-08  8:14   ` Marc-André Lureau
2025-08-08  8:08 ` [PATCH 11/12] ui/dbus: Consistent handling of texture mutex failure Markus Armbruster
2025-08-08  8:15   ` Marc-André Lureau
2025-08-08  8:08 ` [PATCH 12/12] error: Kill @error_warn Markus Armbruster
2025-08-08 14:02   ` Philippe Mathieu-Daudé
2025-08-08 14:45     ` Markus Armbruster
2025-08-09  7:07   ` Akihiko Odaki
2025-08-09  8:30     ` Markus Armbruster [this message]
2025-08-09 10:27       ` Akihiko Odaki
2025-08-09 14:42         ` Markus Armbruster
2025-08-19 11:26   ` Daniel P. Berrangé
2025-09-16 11:27     ` Markus Armbruster

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