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From: "Alex Bennée" <alex.bennee@linaro.org>
To: Akihiko Odaki <akihiko.odaki@daynix.com>
Cc: "Manos Pitsidianakis" <manos.pitsidianakis@linaro.org>,
	qemu-devel@nongnu.org,
	"Pierrick Bouvier" <pierrick.bouvier@linaro.org>,
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	qemu-stable@nongnu.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH v3 12/20] virtio-gpu: fix hang under TCG when unmapping blob
Date: Thu, 22 May 2025 10:28:11 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <875xht805w.fsf@draig.linaro.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <199e7486-7d05-459b-ad51-cb9b130f299f@daynix.com> (Akihiko Odaki's message of "Thu, 22 May 2025 16:40:13 +0900")

Akihiko Odaki <akihiko.odaki@daynix.com> writes:

> On 2025/05/22 16:31, Manos Pitsidianakis wrote:
>> On Thu, May 22, 2025 at 10:03 AM Akihiko Odaki <akihiko.odaki@daynix.com> wrote:
>>>
>>> On 2025/05/22 15:45, Alex Bennée wrote:
>>>> Akihiko Odaki <akihiko.odaki@daynix.com> writes:
>>>>
>>>>> On 2025/05/22 1:42, Alex Bennée wrote:
>>>>>> From: Manos Pitsidianakis <manos.pitsidianakis@linaro.org>
>>>>>> This commit fixes an indefinite hang when using VIRTIO GPU blob
>>>>>> objects
>>>>>> under TCG in certain conditions.
>>>>>> The VIRTIO_GPU_CMD_RESOURCE_MAP_BLOB VIRTIO command creates a
>>>>>> MemoryRegion and attaches it to an offset on a PCI BAR of the
>>>>>> VirtIOGPUdevice. The VIRTIO_GPU_CMD_RESOURCE_UNMAP_BLOB command unmaps
>>>>>> it.
>>>>>> Because virglrenderer commands are not thread-safe they are only
>>>>>> called on the main context and QEMU performs the cleanup in three steps
>>>>>> to prevent a use-after-free scenario where the guest can access the
>>>>>> region after it’s unmapped:
>>>>>> 1. From the main context, the region’s field finish_unmapping is
>>>>>> false
>>>>>>       by default, so it sets a variable cmd_suspended, increases the
>>>>>>       renderer_blocked variable, deletes the blob subregion, and unparents
>>>>>>       the blob subregion causing its reference count to decrement.
>>>>>> 2. From an RCU context, the MemoryView gets freed, the FlatView gets
>>>>>>       recalculated, the free callback of the blob region
>>>>>>       virtio_gpu_virgl_hostmem_region_free is called which sets the
>>>>>>       region’s field finish_unmapping to true, allowing the main thread
>>>>>>       context to finish replying to the command
>>>>>> 3. From the main context, the command is processed again, but this
>>>>>> time
>>>>>>       finish_unmapping is true, so virgl_renderer_resource_unmap can be
>>>>>>       called and a response is sent to the guest.
>>>>>> It happens so that under TCG, if the guest has no timers configured
>>>>>> (and
>>>>>> thus no interrupt will cause the CPU to exit), the RCU thread does not
>>>>>> have enough time to grab the locks and recalculate the FlatView.
>>>>>> That’s not a big problem in practice since most guests will assume a
>>>>>> response will happen later in time and go on to do different things,
>>>>>> potentially triggering interrupts and allowing the RCU context to run.
>>>>>> If the guest waits for the unmap command to complete though, it blocks
>>>>>> indefinitely. Attaching to the QEMU monitor and force quitting the guest
>>>>>> allows the cleanup to continue.
>>>>>> There's no reason why the FlatView recalculation can't occur right
>>>>>> away
>>>>>> when we delete the blob subregion, however. It does not, because when we
>>>>>> create the subregion we set the object as its own parent:
>>>>>>        memory_region_init_ram_ptr(mr, OBJECT(mr), "blob", size, data);
>>>>>> The extra reference is what prevents freeing the memory region
>>>>>> object in
>>>>>> the memory transaction of deleting the subregion.
>>>>>> This commit changes the owner object to the device, which removes
>>>>>> the
>>>>>> extra owner reference in the memory region and causes the MR to be
>>>>>> freed right away in the main context.
>>>>>> Acked-by: Michael S. Tsirkin <mst@redhat.com>
>>>>>> Signed-off-by: Manos Pitsidianakis <manos.pitsidianakis@linaro.org>
>>>>>> Reviewed-by: Alex Bennée <alex.bennee@linaro.org>
>>>>>> Tested-by: Alex Bennée <alex.bennee@linaro.org>
>>>>>> Message-Id: <20250410122643.1747913-3-manos.pitsidianakis@linaro.org>
>>>>>> Cc: qemu-stable@nongnu.org
>>>>>> ---
>>>>>>     hw/display/virtio-gpu-virgl.c | 2 +-
>>>>>>     1 file changed, 1 insertion(+), 1 deletion(-)
>>>>>> diff --git a/hw/display/virtio-gpu-virgl.c
>>>>>> b/hw/display/virtio-gpu-virgl.c
>>>>>> index 71a7500de9..8fbe4e70cc 100644
>>>>>> --- a/hw/display/virtio-gpu-virgl.c
>>>>>> +++ b/hw/display/virtio-gpu-virgl.c
>>>>>> @@ -112,7 +112,7 @@ virtio_gpu_virgl_map_resource_blob(VirtIOGPU *g,
>>>>>>         vmr->g = g;
>>>>>>         mr = g_new0(MemoryRegion, 1);
>>>>>>     -    memory_region_init_ram_ptr(mr, OBJECT(mr), "blob", size,
>>>>>> data);
>>>>>> +    memory_region_init_ram_ptr(mr, OBJECT(g), "blob", size, data);
>>>>>>         memory_region_add_subregion(&b->hostmem, offset, mr);
>>>>>>         memory_region_set_enabled(mr, true);
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> I suggest dropping this patch for now due to the reason I pointed out
>>>>> for the first version of this series.
>>>>
>>>> This fixes an actual bug - without it we get a hang.
>>>>
>>>
>>> I understand that but it also introduces a regression; "[PATCH v3 14/20]
>>> ui/gtk-gl-area: Remove extra draw call in refresh" is also a similar case.
>>>
>>> Ideally such a bug should be fixed without regression, but I understand
>>> it is sometimes difficult to do that and postponing the bug resolution
>>> until figuring out the correct way does not make sense.
>>>
>>> In such a case, a bug should be fixed minimizing the regression and the
>>> documentation of the regression should be left in the code.
>>>
>>> In particular, this patch can cause use-after-free whether TCG is used
>>> or not. Instead, I suggest to avoid freeing memory regions at all on
>>> TCG. It will surely leak memory, but won't result in use-after-free at
>>> least and the other accelerators will be unaffected.
>>>
>>> Regards,
>>> Akihiko Odaki
>> We tested this fix with ASAN and didn't see anything. Do you have a
>> test case in mind that can reproduce this use-after-free? It'd help
>> make a certain decision on whether to drop this patch or not. I'm not
>> doubting that this can cause a use-after-free by the way, it's just
>> that it is hypothetical only. If it causes a use-after-free for sure
>> we should definitely drop it.
>
> No, I don't have a test case and it should rarely occur. More
> concretely, a UAF occurs if the guest accesses the memory region while
> trying to unmap it. It is just a theory indeed, but the theory says
> the UAF is possible.

I have a test case this fixes which I think trumps a theoretical UAF
without a test case.

Why would the guest attempt to access after triggering the free itself?
Wouldn't it be correct to fault the guest for violating its own memory
safety rules?

>>> Instead, I suggest to avoid freeing memory regions at all on
>>> TCG. It will surely leak memory, but won't result in use-after-free at
>>> least and the other accelerators will be unaffected.
>> Leaking memory for blob objects is also not ideal, since they are
>> frequently allocated. It's memory-safe but the leak can accumulate
>> over time.
>>
>
> Memory safety and leak free cannot be compatible unless RCU is fixed.
> We need to choose either of them.

How can the guest access something that is now unmapped? The RCU should
only run after the flatview has been updated.

>
> Regards,
> Akihiko Odaki

-- 
Alex Bennée
Virtualisation Tech Lead @ Linaro


  reply	other threads:[~2025-05-22  9:29 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 52+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2025-05-21 16:42 [PATCH v3 00/20] Maintainer updates for May (testing, plugins, virtio-gpu) - pre-PR Alex Bennée
2025-05-21 16:42 ` [PATCH v3 01/20] tests/docker: expose $HOME/.cache/qemu as docker volume Alex Bennée
2025-05-22  5:23   ` Thomas Huth
2025-05-21 16:42 ` [PATCH v3 02/20] gitlab: disable debug info on CI builds Alex Bennée
2025-05-21 16:42 ` [PATCH v3 03/20] tests/tcg: make aarch64 boot.S handle different starting modes Alex Bennée
2025-05-22  5:10   ` Akihiko Odaki
2025-05-21 16:42 ` [PATCH v3 04/20] tests/qtest: fix igb test failure under --enable-ubsan Alex Bennée
2025-05-22  5:19   ` Akihiko Odaki
2025-05-25 15:18     ` Philippe Mathieu-Daudé
2025-05-21 16:42 ` [PATCH v3 05/20] tests/Makefile: include test-plugins in per-arch build deps Alex Bennée
2025-05-22  5:37   ` Akihiko Odaki
2025-05-22 10:31     ` Alex Bennée
2025-05-22 10:35       ` Akihiko Odaki
2025-05-25 15:18         ` Philippe Mathieu-Daudé
2025-05-21 16:42 ` [PATCH v3 06/20] tests/functional: Add PCI hotplug test for aarch64 Alex Bennée
2025-05-22  5:43   ` Akihiko Odaki
2025-05-21 16:42 ` [PATCH v3 07/20] contrib/plugins: add a scaling factor to the ips arg Alex Bennée
2025-05-22  5:45   ` Akihiko Odaki
2025-05-25 15:19     ` Philippe Mathieu-Daudé
2025-05-21 16:42 ` [PATCH v3 08/20] contrib/plugins: allow setting of instructions per quantum Alex Bennée
2025-05-22  5:55   ` Akihiko Odaki
2025-05-21 16:42 ` [PATCH v3 09/20] MAINTAINERS: add myself to virtio-gpu for Odd Fixes Alex Bennée
2025-05-22  5:16   ` Markus Armbruster
2025-05-21 16:42 ` [PATCH v3 10/20] MAINTAINERS: add Akihiko and Dmitry as reviewers Alex Bennée
2025-05-22  5:16   ` Markus Armbruster
2025-05-24 11:07   ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2025-05-25 15:20   ` Philippe Mathieu-Daudé
2025-05-21 16:42 ` [PATCH v3 11/20] hw/display: re-arrange memory region tracking Alex Bennée
2025-05-21 16:42 ` [PATCH v3 12/20] virtio-gpu: fix hang under TCG when unmapping blob Alex Bennée
2025-05-22  5:59   ` Akihiko Odaki
2025-05-22  6:45     ` Alex Bennée
2025-05-22  7:02       ` Akihiko Odaki
2025-05-22  7:31         ` Manos Pitsidianakis
2025-05-22  7:40           ` Akihiko Odaki
2025-05-22  9:28             ` Alex Bennée [this message]
2025-05-22  9:54               ` Akihiko Odaki
2025-05-27 10:05                 ` Alex Bennée
2025-05-27 11:03                   ` Akihiko Odaki
2025-05-21 16:42 ` [PATCH v3 13/20] virtio-gpu: refactor async blob unmapping Alex Bennée
2025-05-21 16:42 ` [PATCH v3 14/20] ui/gtk-gl-area: Remove extra draw call in refresh Alex Bennée
2025-05-21 16:42 ` [PATCH v3 15/20] virtio-gpu: support context init multiple timeline Alex Bennée
2025-05-21 16:42 ` [PATCH v3 16/20] include/exec: fix assert in size_memop Alex Bennée
2025-05-22  6:07   ` Akihiko Odaki
2025-05-21 16:42 ` [PATCH v3 17/20] include/gdbstub: fix include guard in commands.h Alex Bennée
2025-05-21 16:42 ` [PATCH v3 18/20] gdbstub: assert earlier in handle_read_all_regs Alex Bennée
2025-05-21 16:42 ` [PATCH v3 19/20] gdbstub: Implement qGDBServerVersion packet Alex Bennée
2025-05-22  6:29   ` Akihiko Odaki
2025-05-22 10:05     ` Alex Bennée
2025-05-22 10:15       ` Akihiko Odaki
2025-05-25 15:25   ` Philippe Mathieu-Daudé
2025-05-27  9:16     ` Alex Bennée
2025-05-21 16:42 ` [PATCH v3 20/20] gdbstub: update aarch64-core.xml Alex Bennée

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