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From: Rusty Russell <rusty@rustcorp.com.au>
To: Benjamin Herrenschmidt <benh@kernel.crashing.org>
Cc: "Peter Maydell" <peter.maydell@linaro.org>,
	anton@samba.org, "Andreas Färber" <afaerber@suse.de>,
	"Anthony Liguori" <anthony@codemonkey.ws>,
	qemu-devel@nongnu.org
Subject: Re: [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 1/7] virtio: allow byte swapping for vring and config access
Date: Mon, 12 Aug 2013 09:58:09 +0930	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <8761vboiqu.fsf@rustcorp.com.au> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <1376034579.32100.23.camel@pasglop>

Benjamin Herrenschmidt <benh@kernel.crashing.org> writes:
> This whole exercise should have nothing to do with the current endian
> mode of the CPU. If for example you are running lx86 (the x86 emulator
> IBM provides) which exploits MSR:LE on POWER7 to run x86 binaries in
> userspace, you don't want virtio to suddenly change endian !
>
> The information we care about is the endianness of the operating system.

Which is why my original patches nabbed the endianness when the target
updated the virtio device status.

You're making an assumption about the nature of the guest, that they
don't pass the virtio device directly through to userspace.

I don't care, though.  The point is to make something which works, until
the Real Fix (LE virtio).

> The most logical way to infer it is a different bit, which used to be
> MSR:ILE and is now in LPCR for guests and controlled via a hypercall on
> pseries, which indicates what is the endianness of interrupt vectors.
>
> IE. It indicates how the cpu should set MSR:LE when taking an interrupt,
> regardless of what the current MSR:LE value is at any given point in
> time.
>
> So what should be done in fact is whenever *that* bit is changed
> (currently via hcall, maybe via MSR:ILE if we emulate that on older
> models or LPCR when we emulate that), then the qemu cpu model can "call
> out" to change the "OS endianness" which we can propagate to virtio.
>
> Anything trying to do stuff based on the "current" endianness in the MSR
> sounds like a cesspit to me.

OK.  What should Anton's gdb stub do then?

Cheers,
Rusty.

  reply	other threads:[~2013-08-12  0:32 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 43+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2013-08-08  5:15 [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 0/7] Virtio support for endian-curious guests Rusty Russell
2013-08-08  5:15 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 1/7] virtio: allow byte swapping for vring and config access Rusty Russell
2013-08-08 13:31   ` Anthony Liguori
2013-08-08 14:28     ` Andreas Färber
2013-08-08 15:40       ` Anthony Liguori
2013-08-08 15:45         ` Daniel P. Berrange
2013-08-08 16:07           ` Anthony Liguori
2013-08-08 16:14             ` Peter Maydell
2013-08-08 16:25               ` Anthony Liguori
2013-08-08 16:30                 ` Peter Maydell
2013-08-09  2:58             ` Rusty Russell
2013-08-09  4:39               ` Anton Blanchard
2013-08-09  8:05               ` Peter Maydell
2013-08-09 14:16               ` Anthony Liguori
2013-08-08 15:48         ` Peter Maydell
2013-08-08 16:11           ` Anthony Liguori
2013-08-08 16:24         ` Andreas Färber
2013-08-09  7:35           ` Rusty Russell
2013-08-09  7:42             ` Peter Maydell
2013-08-12  7:49               ` Rusty Russell
2013-08-09  7:49             ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2013-08-12  0:28               ` Rusty Russell [this message]
2013-08-12  0:49                 ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2013-08-09 15:15             ` Andreas Färber
2013-08-09  0:08       ` Rusty Russell
2013-08-09  7:00       ` Rusty Russell
2013-08-09 14:24         ` Andreas Färber
2013-08-09  6:40     ` Rusty Russell
2013-08-09 14:10       ` Anthony Liguori
2013-08-11 23:46         ` Rusty Russell
2013-08-08  5:15 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 2/7] target-ppc: ppc64 targets can be either endian Rusty Russell
2013-08-08  5:15 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 3/7] hw/net/virtio-net: use virtio wrappers to access headers Rusty Russell
2013-08-08 13:32   ` Anthony Liguori
2013-08-08  5:15 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 4/7] hw/net/virtio-balloon: use virtio wrappers to access page frame numbers Rusty Russell
2013-08-08 13:32   ` Anthony Liguori
2013-08-08  5:15 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 5/7] hw/block/virtio-blk: use virtio wrappers to access headers Rusty Russell
2013-08-08  9:57   ` Peter Maydell
2013-08-08 13:32   ` Anthony Liguori
2013-08-08  5:15 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 6/7] hw/scsi/virtio-scsi: " Rusty Russell
2013-08-08 13:33   ` Anthony Liguori
2013-08-08  5:15 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 7/7] hw/char/virtio-serial-bus: " Rusty Russell
2013-08-08 13:34   ` Anthony Liguori
2013-08-08  5:15 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 7/7] patch virtio-serial-biendian.patch Rusty Russell

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