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From: Anthony Liguori <anthony@codemonkey.ws>
To: "Daniel P. Berrange" <berrange@redhat.com>,
	"Andreas Färber" <afaerber@suse.de>
Cc: kvm <kvm@vger.kernel.org>, Scott Moser <smoser@ubuntu.com>,
	Jan Kiszka <jan.kiszka@siemens.com>,
	Marcelo Tosatti <mtosatti@redhat.com>,
	Michael Tokarev <mjt@tls.msk.ru>,
	qemu-devel <qemu-devel@nongnu.org>,
	Bruce Rogers <brogers@suse.com>, Avi Kivity <avi@redhat.com>,
	Cole Robinson <crobinso@redhat.com>,
	Paolo Bonzini <pbonzini@redhat.com>
Subject: Re: [Qemu-devel] [PATCH] kvm: Set default accelerator to "kvm" if the host supports it
Date: Mon, 01 Oct 2012 14:03:54 -0500	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <87626u9fqd.fsf@codemonkey.ws> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20121001164730.GC15554@redhat.com>

"Daniel P. Berrange" <berrange@redhat.com> writes:

> On Mon, Oct 01, 2012 at 06:43:00PM +0200, Andreas Färber wrote:
>> Hello Jan,
>> 
>> Am 01.10.2012 16:34, schrieb Jan Kiszka:
>> > If we built a target for a host that supports KVM in principle, set the
>> > default accelerator to KVM as well. This also means the start of QEMU
>> > will fail to start if KVM support turns out to be unavailable at
>> > runtime.
>> 
>> From a distro point of view this of course means that we will build
>> against KVM and that the new KVM default will start to fail for users on
>> very old hardware. Can't we do a runtime check to select the default?
>
> NB, this is *not* only about old hardware. There are plenty of users who
> use QEMU inside VMs. One very common usage I know of is image building
> tools which are run inside Amazon VMs, using libguestfs & QEMU.

But libguest can set it's accelerator option to whatever it wants.

If your running QEMU under a VM, it's pretty reasonable to have to use a
special option IMHO.

> IMHO, default to KVM, fallback to TCG is the most friendly default
> behaviour.

Except if a user expects good network performance and can't
understand why they're getting 100kb/s.

Regards,

Anthony Liguori

>
> Daniel
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  reply	other threads:[~2012-10-01 19:04 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 45+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
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     [not found] ` <50694EC1.8060006@siemens.com>
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     [not found]     ` <50696E9E.7030302@siemens.com>
2012-10-01 13:19       ` [Qemu-devel] qemu-kvm: remove "boot=on|off" drive parameter compatibility Anthony Liguori
2012-10-01 13:26         ` Jan Kiszka
2012-10-03  9:55           ` Gleb Natapov
2012-10-03 10:06             ` Jan Kiszka
2012-10-03 10:11               ` Gleb Natapov
2012-10-03 10:57             ` Lucas Meneghel Rodrigues
2012-10-03 13:19               ` Paolo Bonzini
2012-10-03 13:27                 ` Gleb Natapov
2012-10-04 10:48                 ` Jan Kiszka
2012-10-04 12:10                   ` Lucas Meneghel Rodrigues
2012-10-04 12:27                     ` Jan Kiszka
2012-10-04 17:21                       ` Lucas Meneghel Rodrigues
2012-10-04 17:24                         ` Jan Kiszka
2012-10-01 13:31         ` Marcelo Tosatti
2012-10-01 13:36           ` Jan Kiszka
2012-10-01 13:44             ` Michael Tokarev
2012-10-01 13:48               ` Jan Kiszka
2012-10-01 13:38         ` Paolo Bonzini
2012-10-01 13:46           ` Jan Kiszka
2012-10-01 14:04           ` Anthony Liguori
2012-10-01 14:34             ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH] kvm: Set default accelerator to "kvm" if the host supports it Jan Kiszka
2012-10-01 16:20               ` Anthony Liguori
2012-10-01 16:56                 ` Aurelien Jarno
2012-10-03  9:02                 ` Jan Kiszka
2012-10-03 20:01                 ` Blue Swirl
2012-10-03 20:26                   ` Peter Maydell
2012-10-05  1:15                     ` Alexander Graf
2012-10-05  2:17                       ` Anthony Liguori
2012-10-05  2:24                         ` Alexander Graf
2012-10-05  8:15                           ` Peter Maydell
2012-10-08 14:03                           ` Andreas Färber
2012-10-08 14:08                             ` Alexander Graf
2012-10-01 16:43               ` Andreas Färber
2012-10-01 16:47                 ` Daniel P. Berrange
2012-10-01 19:03                   ` Anthony Liguori [this message]
2012-10-01 19:25                     ` Paolo Bonzini
2012-10-01 20:07                       ` Anthony Liguori
2012-10-02  7:46                   ` Markus Armbruster
2012-10-02  8:15                     ` Aurelien Jarno
2012-10-03  6:58                     ` Michael Tokarev
2012-10-03  9:05                       ` Jan Kiszka
2012-10-01 14:07         ` [Qemu-devel] qemu-kvm: remove "boot=on|off" drive parameter compatibility Alexander Graf
2012-10-01 14:20           ` Paolo Bonzini
2012-10-01 15:39         ` Bruce Rogers
2012-10-02  8:14         ` Daniel P. Berrange

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