From: Fabiano Rosas <farosas@suse.de>
To: "Daniel P. Berrangé" <berrange@redhat.com>
Cc: Markus Armbruster <armbru@redhat.com>,
qemu-devel@nongnu.org, Juan Quintela <quintela@redhat.com>,
Peter Xu <peterx@redhat.com>, Leonardo Bras <leobras@redhat.com>,
Claudio Fontana <cfontana@suse.de>,
Eric Blake <eblake@redhat.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v2 28/29] migration: Add direct-io parameter
Date: Tue, 31 Oct 2023 10:05:56 -0300 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <878r7jdjrf.fsf@suse.de> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <ZUDC4aoPZZQAF6JU@redhat.com>
Daniel P. Berrangé <berrange@redhat.com> writes:
> On Mon, Oct 30, 2023 at 07:51:34PM -0300, Fabiano Rosas wrote:
>> I could use some advice on how to solve this situation. The fdset code
>> at monitor/fds.c and the add-fd command don't seem to be usable outside
>> the original use-case of passing fds with different open flags.
>>
>> There are several problems, the biggest one being that there's no way to
>> manipulate the set of file descriptors aside from asking for duplication
>> of an fd that matches a particular set of flags.
>>
>> That doesn't work for us because the two fds we need (one for main
>> channel, other for secondary channels) will have the same open flags. So
>> the fdset code will always return the first one it finds in the set.
>
> QEMU may want multiple FDs *internally*, but IMHO that fact should
> not be exposed to mgmt applications. It would be valid for a QEMU
> impl to share the same FD across multiple threads, or have a different
> FD for each thread. All threads are using pread/pwrite, so it is safe
> for them to use the same FD if they desire. It is a private impl choice
> for QEMU at any given point in time and could change over time.
>
Sure, I don't disagree. However up until last week we had a seemingly
usable "add-fd" command that allows the user to provide a *set of file
descriptors* to QEMU. It's just now that we're learning that interface
serves only a special use-case.
> Thus from the POV of the mgmt app, QEMU is writing to a single file, no
> matter how many threads are involved & thus it should only need to supply
> a single FD for thta file. QEMU can then call 'dup()' on that FD as many
> times as it desires, and use fcntl() to toggle O_DIRECT if and when
> it needs to.
Ok, so I think the way to go here is for QEMU to receive a file + offset
instead of an FD. That way QEMU can have adequate control of the
resources for the migration. I don't remember why we went on the FD
tangent. Is it not acceptable for libvirt to provide the file name +
offset?
>> Another problem (or feature) of the fdset code is that it only removes
>> an fd when qmp_remove_fd() is called if the VM runstate is RUNNING,
>> which means that the migration code cannot remove the fds after use
>> reliably. We need to be able to remove them to make sure we use the
>> correct fds in a subsequent migration.
>
> The "easy" option is to just add a new API that does what you want.
> Maybe during review someone will then point out why the orgianl
> API works the way it does.
Hehe so I'll add a qmp_actually_remove_fd() =)
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2023-10-31 13:06 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 128+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2023-10-23 20:35 [PATCH v2 00/29] migration: File based migration with multifd and fixed-ram Fabiano Rosas
2023-10-23 20:35 ` [PATCH v2 01/29] tests/qtest: migration events Fabiano Rosas
2023-10-25 9:44 ` Thomas Huth
2023-10-25 10:14 ` Daniel P. Berrangé
2023-10-25 13:21 ` Fabiano Rosas
2023-10-25 13:33 ` Steven Sistare
2023-10-23 20:35 ` [PATCH v2 02/29] tests/qtest: Move QTestMigrationState to libqtest Fabiano Rosas
2023-10-25 10:17 ` Daniel P. Berrangé
2023-10-25 13:19 ` Fabiano Rosas
2023-10-23 20:35 ` [PATCH v2 03/29] tests/qtest: Allow waiting for migration events Fabiano Rosas
2023-10-23 20:35 ` [PATCH v2 04/29] migration: Return the saved state from global_state_store Fabiano Rosas
2023-10-25 10:19 ` Daniel P. Berrangé
2023-10-23 20:35 ` [PATCH v2 05/29] migration: Introduce global_state_store_once Fabiano Rosas
2023-10-23 20:35 ` [PATCH v2 06/29] migration: Add auto-pause capability Fabiano Rosas
2023-10-24 5:25 ` Markus Armbruster
2023-10-24 18:12 ` Fabiano Rosas
2023-10-25 5:33 ` Markus Armbruster
2023-10-25 8:48 ` Daniel P. Berrangé
2023-10-25 13:57 ` Fabiano Rosas
2023-10-25 14:20 ` Daniel P. Berrangé
2023-10-25 14:58 ` Peter Xu
2023-10-25 15:25 ` Daniel P. Berrangé
2023-10-25 15:36 ` Peter Xu
2023-10-25 15:40 ` Daniel P. Berrangé
2023-10-25 17:20 ` Peter Xu
2023-10-25 17:31 ` Daniel P. Berrangé
2023-10-25 19:28 ` Peter Xu
2023-10-23 20:35 ` [PATCH v2 07/29] migration: Run "file:" migration with a stopped VM Fabiano Rosas
2023-10-23 20:35 ` [PATCH v2 08/29] tests/qtest: File migration auto-pause tests Fabiano Rosas
2023-10-23 20:35 ` [PATCH v2 09/29] io: add and implement QIO_CHANNEL_FEATURE_SEEKABLE for channel file Fabiano Rosas
2023-10-23 20:35 ` [PATCH v2 10/29] io: Add generic pwritev/preadv interface Fabiano Rosas
2023-10-24 8:18 ` Daniel P. Berrangé
2023-10-24 19:06 ` Fabiano Rosas
2023-10-23 20:35 ` [PATCH v2 11/29] io: implement io_pwritev/preadv for QIOChannelFile Fabiano Rosas
2023-10-23 20:35 ` [PATCH v2 12/29] migration/qemu-file: add utility methods for working with seekable channels Fabiano Rosas
2023-10-25 10:22 ` Daniel P. Berrangé
2023-10-23 20:35 ` [PATCH v2 13/29] migration: fixed-ram: Add URI compatibility check Fabiano Rosas
2023-10-25 10:27 ` Daniel P. Berrangé
2023-10-31 16:06 ` Peter Xu
2023-10-23 20:35 ` [PATCH v2 14/29] migration/ram: Introduce 'fixed-ram' migration capability Fabiano Rosas
2023-10-24 5:33 ` Markus Armbruster
2023-10-24 18:35 ` Fabiano Rosas
2023-10-25 6:18 ` Markus Armbruster
2023-10-23 20:35 ` [PATCH v2 15/29] migration/ram: Add support for 'fixed-ram' outgoing migration Fabiano Rosas
2023-10-25 9:39 ` Daniel P. Berrangé
2023-10-25 14:03 ` Fabiano Rosas
2023-11-01 15:23 ` Peter Xu
2023-11-01 15:52 ` Daniel P. Berrangé
2023-11-01 16:24 ` Peter Xu
2023-11-01 16:37 ` Daniel P. Berrangé
2023-11-01 17:30 ` Peter Xu
2023-10-31 16:52 ` Peter Xu
2023-10-31 17:33 ` Fabiano Rosas
2023-10-31 17:59 ` Peter Xu
2023-10-23 20:35 ` [PATCH v2 16/29] migration/ram: Add support for 'fixed-ram' migration restore Fabiano Rosas
2023-10-25 9:43 ` Daniel P. Berrangé
2023-10-25 14:07 ` Fabiano Rosas
2023-10-31 19:03 ` Peter Xu
2023-11-01 9:26 ` Daniel P. Berrangé
2023-11-01 14:21 ` Peter Xu
2023-11-01 14:28 ` Daniel P. Berrangé
2023-11-01 15:00 ` Peter Xu
2023-11-06 13:18 ` Fabiano Rosas
2023-11-06 21:00 ` Peter Xu
2023-11-07 9:02 ` Daniel P. Berrangé
2023-10-31 19:09 ` Peter Xu
2023-10-31 20:00 ` Fabiano Rosas
2023-10-23 20:35 ` [PATCH v2 17/29] tests/qtest: migration-test: Add tests for fixed-ram file-based migration Fabiano Rosas
2023-10-23 20:35 ` [PATCH v2 18/29] migration/multifd: Allow multifd without packets Fabiano Rosas
2023-10-23 20:35 ` [PATCH v2 19/29] migration/multifd: Add outgoing QIOChannelFile support Fabiano Rosas
2023-10-25 9:52 ` Daniel P. Berrangé
2023-10-25 14:12 ` Fabiano Rosas
2023-10-25 14:23 ` Daniel P. Berrangé
2023-10-25 15:00 ` Fabiano Rosas
2023-10-25 15:26 ` Daniel P. Berrangé
2023-10-31 20:11 ` Peter Xu
2023-10-23 20:35 ` [PATCH v2 20/29] migration/multifd: Add incoming " Fabiano Rosas
2023-10-25 10:29 ` Daniel P. Berrangé
2023-10-25 14:18 ` Fabiano Rosas
2023-10-31 21:28 ` Peter Xu
2023-10-23 20:36 ` [PATCH v2 21/29] migration/multifd: Add pages to the receiving side Fabiano Rosas
2023-10-31 22:10 ` Peter Xu
2023-10-31 23:18 ` Fabiano Rosas
2023-11-01 15:55 ` Peter Xu
2023-11-01 17:20 ` Fabiano Rosas
2023-11-01 17:35 ` Peter Xu
2023-11-01 18:14 ` Fabiano Rosas
2023-10-23 20:36 ` [PATCH v2 22/29] io: Add a pwritev/preadv version that takes a discontiguous iovec Fabiano Rosas
2023-10-24 8:50 ` Daniel P. Berrangé
2023-10-23 20:36 ` [PATCH v2 23/29] migration/ram: Add a wrapper for fixed-ram shadow bitmap Fabiano Rosas
2023-11-01 14:29 ` Peter Xu
2023-10-23 20:36 ` [PATCH v2 24/29] migration/ram: Ignore multifd flush when doing fixed-ram migration Fabiano Rosas
2023-10-25 9:09 ` Daniel P. Berrangé
2023-10-23 20:36 ` [PATCH v2 25/29] migration/multifd: Support outgoing fixed-ram stream format Fabiano Rosas
2023-10-25 9:23 ` Daniel P. Berrangé
2023-10-25 14:21 ` Fabiano Rosas
2023-10-23 20:36 ` [PATCH v2 26/29] migration/multifd: Support incoming " Fabiano Rosas
2023-10-23 20:36 ` [PATCH v2 27/29] tests/qtest: Add a multifd + fixed-ram migration test Fabiano Rosas
2023-10-23 20:36 ` [PATCH v2 28/29] migration: Add direct-io parameter Fabiano Rosas
2023-10-24 5:41 ` Markus Armbruster
2023-10-24 19:32 ` Fabiano Rosas
2023-10-25 6:23 ` Markus Armbruster
2023-10-25 8:44 ` Daniel P. Berrangé
2023-10-25 14:32 ` Fabiano Rosas
2023-10-25 14:43 ` Daniel P. Berrangé
2023-10-25 17:30 ` Fabiano Rosas
2023-10-25 17:45 ` Daniel P. Berrangé
2023-10-25 18:10 ` Fabiano Rosas
2023-10-30 22:51 ` Fabiano Rosas
2023-10-31 9:03 ` Daniel P. Berrangé
2023-10-31 13:05 ` Fabiano Rosas [this message]
2023-10-31 13:45 ` Daniel P. Berrangé
2023-10-31 14:33 ` Fabiano Rosas
2023-10-31 15:22 ` Daniel P. Berrangé
2023-10-31 15:52 ` Fabiano Rosas
2023-10-31 15:58 ` Daniel P. Berrangé
2023-10-31 19:05 ` Fabiano Rosas
2023-11-01 9:30 ` Daniel P. Berrangé
2023-11-01 12:16 ` Fabiano Rosas
2023-11-01 12:23 ` Daniel P. Berrangé
2023-11-01 12:30 ` Fabiano Rosas
2023-10-24 8:33 ` Daniel P. Berrangé
2023-10-24 19:06 ` Fabiano Rosas
2023-10-25 9:07 ` Daniel P. Berrangé
2023-10-25 14:48 ` Fabiano Rosas
2023-10-25 15:22 ` Daniel P. Berrangé
2023-10-23 20:36 ` [PATCH v2 29/29] tests/qtest: Add a test for migration with direct-io and multifd Fabiano Rosas
2023-10-25 9:25 ` Daniel P. Berrangé
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