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From: "Alex Bennée" <alex.bennee@linaro.org>
To: Peter Maydell <peter.maydell@linaro.org>
Cc: "Jason A. Donenfeld" <Jason@zx2c4.com>, qemu-devel@nongnu.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH] hw/arm/virt: dt: add rng-seed property
Date: Wed, 29 Jun 2022 11:18:23 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <878rpfixfh.fsf@linaro.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAFEAcA9jzUk72NZ=BAubjiFwqVaUWqCgjJ-BLLx=J8Aq+ieWSg@mail.gmail.com>


Peter Maydell <peter.maydell@linaro.org> writes:

> On Tue, 28 Jun 2022 at 19:45, Jason A. Donenfeld <Jason@zx2c4.com> wrote:
>>
>> On 6/27/22, Jason A. Donenfeld <Jason@zx2c4.com> wrote:
>> > On 6/27/22, Peter Maydell <peter.maydell@linaro.org> wrote:
>> >> On Mon, 27 Jun 2022 at 17:07, Jason A. Donenfeld <Jason@zx2c4.com> wrote:
>> >>>
>> >>> In 60592cfed2 ("hw/arm/virt: dt: add kaslr-seed property"), the
>> >>> kaslr-seed property was added, but the equally as important rng-seed
>> >>> property was forgotten about, which has identical semantics for a
>> >>> similar purpose. This commit implements it in exactly the same way as
>> >>> kaslr-seed.
>> >>
>> >> Not an objection, since if this is what the dtb spec says we need
>> >> to provide then I guess we need to provide it, but:
>> >> Why do we need to give the kernel two separate random seeds?
>> >> Isn't one sufficient for the kernel to seed its RNG and generate
>> >> whatever randomness it needs for whatever purposes it wants it?
>> >>
>> >
>> > Seems a bit silly to me too. `rng-seed` alone ought to be sufficient.
>> > After the kernel calls add_bootloader_randomness() on it,
>> > get_random_long() can be used for kaslr'ing and everything else too.
>> > So I'm not sure what's up, but here we are. Maybe down the line I'll
>> > look into the details and formulate a plan to remove `kaslr-seed` if
>> > my supposition is correct.

Sorry now I've had my coffee and read properly I see you are already
aware of kaslr-seed. However my point about suppression would still
stand because for the secure boot flow you need checksum-able DTBs.

-- 
Alex Bennée


  parent reply	other threads:[~2022-06-29 10:24 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 15+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2022-06-27 16:07 [PATCH] hw/arm/virt: dt: add rng-seed property Jason A. Donenfeld
2022-06-27 16:12 ` Peter Maydell
2022-06-27 16:36   ` Jason A. Donenfeld
2022-06-28 18:45     ` Jason A. Donenfeld
2022-06-29  9:37       ` Peter Maydell
2022-06-29 10:15         ` Alex Bennée
2022-06-29 10:18         ` Alex Bennée [this message]
2022-06-29 11:26           ` Jason A. Donenfeld
2022-06-29 15:24             ` Alex Bennée
2022-06-29 15:55               ` Jason A. Donenfeld
2022-06-30  9:15                 ` Peter Maydell
2022-06-30 10:22                   ` Jason A. Donenfeld
2022-06-30 10:37                     ` [PATCH v2] " Jason A. Donenfeld
2022-07-04 14:42                       ` Peter Maydell
2022-07-05  0:45                         ` Jason A. Donenfeld

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