From: Anthony Liguori <aliguori@us.ibm.com>
To: "Alexander Graf" <agraf@suse.de>, "Andreas Färber" <afaerber@suse.de>
Cc: aurel@aurel32.net, qemu-ppc@nongnu.org, qemu-devel@nongnu.org,
David Gibson <david@gibson.dropbear.id.au>
Subject: Re: [Qemu-devel] [Qemu-ppc] [PATCH] target-ppc: Change default machine for 64-bit
Date: Thu, 13 Jun 2013 13:31:48 -0500 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <878v2d276z.fsf@codemonkey.ws> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <437ECAF8-6CF1-4015-96FA-F1CE0400A968@suse.de>
Alexander Graf <agraf@suse.de> writes:
> On 17.05.2013, at 09:42, Andreas Färber wrote:
>
>> Am 17.05.2013 06:25, schrieb David Gibson:
>>> Currently, for qemu-system-ppc64, the default machine type is 'mac99'.
>>> Since the mac99 machine is not being actively maintained, and shows quite
>>> a few signs of bitrot,
>>
>> Please be more specific than making such general claims in a commit
>> message! As the default machine it certainly compiles, so where are you
>> seeing bitrot? The DEC bridge cleanup that I once started kind of
>> depends on the PCI cleanup you recently looked into.
>
> The mac99 machine for 64bit is actually worse than anything bitrot
> could give you. It emulates a machine that in its form never possibly
> could have existed in real hardware, which makes it very fragile and
> dependent on the guest's mercy to handle this gracefully.
I'll note that we have a CONFIG_PSERIES today. I'd suggest getting rid
of it first before making pseries the default.
I still think spapr would be a better name than pseries FWIW since
that's what it's referred to in the code.
Regards,
Anthony Liguori
>
> Given the current state and amount of development on the pseries target, I think it makes sense to declare that as the default for qemu-system-ppc64.
>
> I would still love to see -M mac99 emulate a proper U2 or U1 based system for 32bit. And I would also love to see a real U4 based emulation model come up for qemu-system-ppc64. But I doubt I'll have time to work on either :).
>
>
> Alex
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2013-06-13 18:32 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 16+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2013-05-17 4:25 [Qemu-devel] [PATCH] target-ppc: Change default machine for 64-bit David Gibson
2013-05-17 4:36 ` [Qemu-devel] [Qemu-ppc] " Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2013-05-17 5:17 ` David Gibson
2013-05-17 7:17 ` Peter Maydell
2013-05-17 7:22 ` Alexander Graf
2013-05-17 7:42 ` [Qemu-devel] " Andreas Färber
2013-05-17 8:01 ` [Qemu-devel] [Qemu-ppc] " Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2013-06-13 13:49 ` Alexander Graf
2013-06-13 18:31 ` Anthony Liguori [this message]
2013-06-13 18:44 ` Scott Wood
2013-06-13 19:02 ` Anthony Liguori
2013-06-13 20:44 ` Peter Maydell
2013-06-14 16:15 ` Andreas Färber
2013-06-14 14:28 ` Andreas Färber
2013-06-14 21:58 ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2013-06-16 10:20 ` David Gibson
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