From: Juan Quintela <quintela@redhat.com>
To: Fabiano Rosas <farosas@suse.de>
Cc: qemu-devel@nongnu.org, Peter Xu <peterx@redhat.com>,
Leonardo Bras <leobras@redhat.com>,
Elena Ufimtseva <elena.ufimtseva@oracle.com>
Subject: Re: [RFC PATCH v2 1/6] migration/multifd: Remove channels_ready semaphore
Date: Thu, 19 Oct 2023 20:41:26 +0200 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <87a5se3161.fsf@secure.mitica> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <87lebyy5ac.fsf@suse.de> (Fabiano Rosas's message of "Thu, 19 Oct 2023 12:56:43 -0300")
Fabiano Rosas <farosas@suse.de> wrote:
> Juan Quintela <quintela@redhat.com> writes:
>
>> Fabiano Rosas <farosas@suse.de> wrote:
>>> Juan Quintela <quintela@redhat.com> writes:
>>>
>>
>> This is a common pattern for concurrency. To not have your mutex locked
>> too long, you put a variable (that can only be tested/changed with the
>> lock) to explain that the "channel" is busy, the struct that lock
>> protects is not (see how we make sure that the channel don't use any
>> variable of the struct without the locking).
>
> Sure, but what purpose is to mark the channel as busy? The migration
> thread cannot access the p->packet anyway. From multifd_send_pages()
> perspective, as soon as the channel releases the lock to start with the
> IO, the packet has been sent. It could start preparing the next pages
> struct while the channel is doing IO. No?
ok, we remove the pending.
Then we are sending that packet.
But see what happens on multifd_send_pages()
channels_ready is 0.
this is channel 1
next_channel == 1
channel 0 gets ready, so it increases channels_ready.
static int multifd_send_pages(QEMUFile *f)
{
qemu_sem_wait(&multifd_send_state->channels_ready);
// we pass this
next_channel %= migrate_multifd_channels();
for (i = next_channel;; i = (i + 1) % migrate_multifd_channels()) {
p = &multifd_send_state->params[i];
// remember that i == 0
qemu_mutex_lock(&p->mutex);
if (p->quit) {
error_report("%s: channel %d has already quit!", __func__, i);
qemu_mutex_unlock(&p->mutex);
return -1;
}
if (!p->pending_job) {
p->pending_job++;
next_channel = (i + 1) % migrate_multifd_channels();
break;
}
qemu_mutex_unlock(&p->mutex);
// We choose 1, to send the packet through it.
// channel 1 is busy.
// channel 0 is idle but receives no work.
}
...
}
So the variable is there to differentiate what channels are busy/idle to
send the work to the idle channels.
> We don't touch p after the IO aside from p->pending_jobs-- and we
> already distribute the load uniformly by incrementing next_channel.
I know. After multifd_send_threads() releases the mutex it will only
touch ->pending_job (taking the mutex 1st).
> I'm not saying this would be more performant, just wondering if it would
> be possible.
Yeap, but as said before quite suboptimal.
>> As said, we don't want that. Because channels can go a different speeds
>> due to factors outside of our control.
>>
>> If the semaphore bothers you, you can change it to to a condition
>> variable, but you just move the complexity from one side to the other
>> (Initial implementation had a condition variable, but Paolo said that
>> the semaphore is more efficient, so he won)
>
> Oh, it doesn't bother me. I'm just trying to unequivocally understand
> it's effects. And if it logically follows that it's not necessary, only
> then remove it.
Both channels_ready and pending_job makes the scheme more performant.
Without them it will not fail, just work way slower.
In the example that just showed you, if we started always from channel 0
to search for a idle channel, we would even do worse (that would be an
actual error):
start with channels_ready == 0;
channels_ready is 0.
channel 1 gets ready, so it increases channels_ready.
static int multifd_send_pages(QEMUFile *f)
{
qemu_sem_wait(&multifd_send_state->channels_ready);
// we pass this
for (i = 0;; i = (i + 1) % migrate_multifd_channels()) {
p = &multifd_send_state->params[i];
// remember that i == 0
qemu_mutex_lock(&p->mutex);
if (p->quit) {
error_report("%s: channel %d has already quit!", __func__, i);
qemu_mutex_unlock(&p->mutex);
return -1;
}
if (!p->pending_job) {
p->pending_job++;
next_channel = (i + 1) % migrate_multifd_channels();
break;
}
// As there is no test to see if this is idle, we put the page here
qemu_mutex_unlock(&p->mutex);
// We put here the page info
}
...
}
channel 2 guest ready, so it increses channels_ready
static int multifd_send_pages(QEMUFile *f)
{
qemu_sem_wait(&multifd_send_state->channels_ready);
// we pass this
for (i = 0;; i = (i + 1) % migrate_multifd_channels()) {
p = &multifd_send_state->params[i];
// remember that i == 0
qemu_mutex_lock(&p->mutex);
if (p->quit) {
error_report("%s: channel %d has already quit!", __func__, i);
qemu_mutex_unlock(&p->mutex);
return -1;
}
if (!p->pending_job) {
p->pending_job++;
next_channel = (i + 1) % migrate_multifd_channels();
break;
}
// As there is no test to see if this is idle, we put the page here
qemu_mutex_unlock(&p->mutex);
// We put here the page info
// channel 0 is still transmitting the 1st page
// And overwrote the previous page info
}
...
}
In this particular case, using next_channel in round robin would have
saved the case. When you put info for a channel to consume
asynhronously, you need to mark somehow that the channel has finished to
use the data before ordering it to put do more job.
We can changing pending_job to a bool if you preffer. I think that we
have nailed all the off_by_one errors by now (famous last words).
Later, Juan.
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2023-10-19 18:42 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 30+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2023-10-12 14:06 [RFC PATCH v2 0/6] migration/multifd: Locking changes Fabiano Rosas
2023-10-12 14:06 ` [RFC PATCH v2 1/6] migration/multifd: Remove channels_ready semaphore Fabiano Rosas
2023-10-19 9:06 ` Juan Quintela
2023-10-19 14:35 ` Peter Xu
2023-10-19 15:00 ` Juan Quintela
2023-10-19 15:46 ` Peter Xu
2023-10-19 18:28 ` Juan Quintela
2023-10-19 18:50 ` Peter Xu
2023-10-20 7:56 ` Juan Quintela
2023-10-19 14:55 ` Fabiano Rosas
2023-10-19 15:18 ` Juan Quintela
2023-10-19 15:56 ` Fabiano Rosas
2023-10-19 18:41 ` Juan Quintela [this message]
2023-10-19 19:04 ` Peter Xu
2023-10-20 7:53 ` Juan Quintela
2023-10-20 12:48 ` Fabiano Rosas
2023-10-22 20:17 ` Peter Xu
2023-10-12 14:06 ` [RFC PATCH v2 2/6] migration/multifd: Stop checking p->quit in multifd_send_thread Fabiano Rosas
2023-10-19 9:08 ` Juan Quintela
2023-10-19 14:58 ` Fabiano Rosas
2023-10-19 15:19 ` Peter Xu
2023-10-19 15:19 ` Juan Quintela
2023-10-12 14:06 ` [RFC PATCH v2 3/6] migration/multifd: Decouple control flow from the SYNC packet Fabiano Rosas
2023-10-19 10:28 ` Juan Quintela
2023-10-19 15:31 ` Peter Xu
2023-10-12 14:06 ` [RFC PATCH v2 4/6] migration/multifd: Extract sem_done waiting into a function Fabiano Rosas
2023-10-12 14:06 ` [RFC PATCH v2 5/6] migration/multifd: Stop setting 'quit' outside of channels Fabiano Rosas
2023-10-19 10:35 ` Juan Quintela
2023-10-12 14:06 ` [RFC PATCH v2 6/6] migration/multifd: Bring back the 'ready' semaphore Fabiano Rosas
2023-10-19 10:43 ` Juan Quintela
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