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From: Anthony Liguori <aliguori@us.ibm.com>
To: Eric Blake <eblake@redhat.com>
Cc: qemu-devel@nongnu.org, armbru@redhat.com, lcapitulino@redhat.com,
	qiaonuohan@cn.fujitsu.com, pbonzini@redhat.com,
	Amos Kong <akong@redhat.com>
Subject: Re: [Qemu-devel] [PATCH] full introspection support for QMP
Date: Tue, 02 Jul 2013 12:06:08 -0500	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <87a9m4j3i7.fsf@codemonkey.ws> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <51D2F1B3.1080903@redhat.com>

Eric Blake <eblake@redhat.com> writes:

> On 07/02/2013 08:51 AM, Anthony Liguori wrote:
>> Amos Kong <akong@redhat.com> writes:
>> 
>>> Introduces new monitor command to query QMP schema information,
>>> the return data is a nested dict/list, it contains the useful
>>> metadata.
>>>
>>> we can add events definations to qapi-schema.json, then it can
>>> also be queried.
>>>
>>> Signed-off-by: Amos Kong <akong@redhat.com>
>> 
>> Maybe I'm being too meta here, but why not just return qapi-schema.json
>> as a string and call it as day?
>
> Because qapi-schema.json requires further parsing.  For example, how is
> a client supposed to know that '*foo':'int' means that there is an
> argument named 'foo' but it is optional?  The rule of thumb with QMP is
> that if you have to post-process JSON output, then the JSON was not
> designed correctly.

Then we should fix qapi-schema.json.

>> It's JSON already and since QMP is JSON, the client already has a JSON
>> parser.  Adding another level of complexity doesn't add much value IMHO.
>
> qapi-schema.json is not quite JSON, in that it has #comments that we'd
> have to strip before we attempted a trick like this.  

Pretty easy to filter that out...

> I've also been the one arguing that the additional complexity (an array of
> {"name":"str","type":"str","optional":bool"}) is better for libvirt in
> that the JSON is then well-suited for scanning (it is easier to scan
> through an array where the key is a constant "name", and looking for the
> value that we are interested in, than it is to scan through a dictionary
> where the keys of the dictionary are the names we are interested in).
> That is, the JSON in qapi-schema.json is a nice compact representation
> that works for humans, but may be a bit TOO compact for handling via
> machines.

But adding a bunch of code to do JSON translation just adds a bunch of
additional complexity.

One reasonable compromise would be:

{ "command": "foo", "arguments": { "name": "str", "id": "int" },
                    "optional": { "bar": "bool" } }

Then libvirt only has to test 'does command["optional"] contain key
"bar"' to test for an optional parameter.

Although to be honest, '*bar' in command['arguments'] is reasonable too
IMHO.

Regards,

Anthony Liguori


>
> -- 
> Eric Blake   eblake redhat com    +1-919-301-3266
> Libvirt virtualization library http://libvirt.org

  parent reply	other threads:[~2013-07-02 17:06 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 33+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2013-06-19 12:24 [Qemu-devel] [PATCH] full introspection support for QMP Amos Kong
2013-06-19 12:49 ` Amos Kong
2013-06-20 10:16   ` Amos Kong
2013-07-02 16:39   ` Eric Blake
2013-06-21  3:20 ` Luiz Capitulino
2013-07-02  8:37   ` Amos Kong
2013-07-02 14:20     ` Luiz Capitulino
2013-07-16 10:52       ` Amos Kong
2013-07-02 14:51 ` Anthony Liguori
2013-07-02 15:28   ` Eric Blake
2013-07-02 15:39     ` Daniel P. Berrange
2013-07-02 16:44       ` Eric Blake
2013-07-02 17:01         ` Paolo Bonzini
2013-07-02 17:06           ` Eric Blake
2013-07-02 18:27             ` Anthony Liguori
2013-07-04  3:54               ` Amos Kong
2013-07-02 18:21         ` Anthony Liguori
2013-07-02 20:00           ` Paolo Bonzini
2013-07-02 20:08             ` Eric Blake
2013-07-02 20:58             ` Anthony Liguori
2013-07-03  5:52               ` Paolo Bonzini
2013-07-03 12:54                 ` Anthony Liguori
2013-07-03 14:45                   ` Paolo Bonzini
2013-07-03 16:06                     ` Anthony Liguori
2013-07-04  7:53                       ` Paolo Bonzini
2013-07-11 13:37                   ` Amos Kong
2013-07-02 17:06     ` Anthony Liguori [this message]
2013-07-02 17:11       ` Eric Blake
2013-07-02 18:28         ` Anthony Liguori
2013-07-03 15:08       ` Kevin Wolf
2013-07-03 15:59         ` Anthony Liguori
2013-07-04  7:42           ` Kevin Wolf
2013-07-04  7:55           ` Paolo Bonzini

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