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From: Paolo Bonzini <pbonzini@redhat.com>
To: John Snow <jsnow@redhat.com>, qemu-devel@nongnu.org
Cc: "Warner Losh" <imp@bsdimp.com>, "Beraldo Leal" <bleal@redhat.com>,
	"Kyle Evans" <kevans@freebsd.org>,
	"Thomas Huth" <thuth@redhat.com>,
	"Daniel Berrange" <berrange@redhat.com>,
	"Reinoud Zandijk" <reinoud@netbsd.org>,
	"Wainer dos Santos Moschetta" <wainersm@redhat.com>,
	"Cleber Rosa" <crosa@redhat.com>,
	"Ryo ONODERA" <ryoon@netbsd.org>,
	"Philippe Mathieu-Daudé" <philmd@linaro.org>,
	"Ani Sinha" <ani@anisinha.ca>,
	"Michael S. Tsirkin" <mst@redhat.com>,
	"Alex Bennée" <alex.bennee@linaro.org>
Subject: Re: [RFC PATCH v3 00/20] configure: create a python venv and ensure meson, sphinx
Date: Wed, 26 Apr 2023 10:05:54 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <87ab99cd-b3a6-22a5-ce2a-f569b2ef1213@redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20230424200248.1183394-1-jsnow@redhat.com>

On 4/24/23 22:02, John Snow wrote:
> Some important points as a pre-emptive "FAQ":
> 
> - This venv is unconditionally created and lives at {build_dir}/pyvenv.
> 
> - The python interpreter used by this venv is always the one identified
>    by configure. (Which in turn is always the one specified by --python
>    or $PYTHON)
> 
> -*almost*  all python scripts in qemu.git executed as part of the build
>    system, meson, sphinx, avocado tests, vm tests or CI are always
>    executed within this venv.
> 
>    (iotests are not yet integrated; I plan to tackle this separately as a
>    follow-up in order to have a more tightly focused scope on that
>    series.)
> 
> - It remains possible to build and test fully offline.
>    (In most cases, you just need meson and sphinx from your distro's repo.)
> 
> - Distribution packaged 'meson' and 'sphinx' are still utilized whenever
>    possible as the highest preference.
> 
> - Vendored versions of e.g. 'meson' are always preferred to PyPI
>    versions for speed, repeatability and ensuring tarball builds work
>    as-is offline.
> 
>    (Sphinx will not be vendored, just like it already isn't.)
> 
> - Missing dependencies, when possible, are fetched and installed
>    on-demand automatically to make developer environments "just work".
> 
> - Works for Python 3.7 and up, on Fedora, OpenSuSE, Red Hat, CentOS,
>    Alpine, Debian, Ubuntu, NetBSD, OpenBSD, and hopefully everywhere
> 
> - No new dependencies (...for most platforms. Debian and NetBSD get an
>    asterisk.)
> 
> - The meson git submodule is unused after this series and can be removed.

Thanks, this looks pretty good.  Some changes I'd make for the non-RFC 
version:

- I think we should just check in the meson wheel (which also removes 
the need for patch 12, so it can be done in its stead) and remove the 
submodule

- The verbosity of mkvenv.py can be tuned down and most prints replaced 
with logger.info() or logger.debug()

- While I agree with keeping patch 18 separate, I would move it earlier 
so that patch 19 can be squashed into patch 14

- I am ambivalent about keeping --enable/--disable-pypi in the first 
committed patchset, but in any case I would move patches 16 and 20 
before patch 15

Paolo



  parent reply	other threads:[~2023-04-26  8:06 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 46+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2023-04-24 20:02 [RFC PATCH v3 00/20] configure: create a python venv and ensure meson, sphinx John Snow
2023-04-24 20:02 ` [RFC PATCH v3 01/20] python: update pylint configuration John Snow
2023-04-25 16:38   ` Daniel P. Berrangé
2023-04-24 20:02 ` [RFC PATCH v3 02/20] python: add mkvenv.py John Snow
2023-04-24 20:02 ` [RFC PATCH v3 03/20] mkvenv: add console script entry point generation John Snow
2023-04-24 20:02 ` [RFC PATCH v3 04/20] mkvenv: Add better error message for missing pyexpat module John Snow
2023-04-24 20:02 ` [RFC PATCH v3 05/20] mkvenv: generate console entry shims from inside the venv John Snow
2023-04-24 20:02 ` [RFC PATCH v3 06/20] mkvenv: work around broken pip installations on Debian 10 John Snow
2023-04-24 20:02 ` [RFC PATCH v3 07/20] mkvenv: add nested venv workaround John Snow
2023-04-24 20:02 ` [RFC PATCH v3 08/20] mkvenv: add ensure subcommand John Snow
2023-04-24 20:02 ` [RFC PATCH v3 09/20] tests/docker: add python3-venv dependency John Snow
2023-04-25 16:42   ` Daniel P. Berrangé
2023-04-24 20:02 ` [RFC PATCH v3 10/20] tests/vm: Configure netbsd to use Python 3.10 John Snow
2023-04-25 16:43   ` Daniel P. Berrangé
2023-04-24 20:02 ` [RFC PATCH v3 11/20] tests/vm: add py310-expat to NetBSD John Snow
2023-04-25 16:45   ` Daniel P. Berrangé
2023-04-25 16:57     ` John Snow
2023-04-24 20:02 ` [RFC PATCH v3 12/20] scripts/make-release: download meson==0.61.5 .whl John Snow
2023-04-24 20:02 ` [RFC PATCH v3 13/20] configure: create a python venv unconditionally John Snow
2023-04-24 20:02 ` [RFC PATCH v3 14/20] configure: use 'mkvenv ensure meson' to bootstrap meson John Snow
2023-04-24 20:35   ` Warner Losh
2023-04-24 20:41     ` John Snow
2023-04-24 21:20       ` Warner Losh
2023-04-24 20:02 ` [RFC PATCH v3 15/20] configure: add --enable-pypi and --disable-pypi John Snow
2023-04-24 20:02 ` [RFC PATCH v3 16/20] tests: Use configure-provided pyvenv for tests John Snow
2023-04-24 20:02 ` [RFC PATCH v3 17/20] configure: move --enable-docs and --disable-docs back to configure John Snow
2023-04-24 20:02 ` [RFC PATCH v3 18/20] mkvenv: add diagnose() method for ensure() failures John Snow
2023-04-24 20:02 ` [RFC PATCH v3 19/20] configure: use --diagnose option with meson ensure John Snow
2023-04-24 20:02 ` [RFC PATCH v3 20/20] configure: bootstrap sphinx with mkvenv John Snow
2023-04-25 17:17 ` [RFC PATCH v3 00/20] configure: create a python venv and ensure meson, sphinx Daniel P. Berrangé
2023-04-25 17:22   ` John Snow
2023-04-25 17:34     ` John Snow
2023-04-25 18:10       ` Daniel P. Berrangé
2023-04-25 18:58         ` John Snow
2023-04-26  8:21           ` Daniel P. Berrangé
2023-04-26  8:35             ` Paolo Bonzini
2023-04-25 18:03     ` Daniel P. Berrangé
2023-04-26  8:05 ` Paolo Bonzini [this message]
2023-04-26  8:49   ` Paolo Bonzini
2023-04-26 16:16     ` John Snow
2023-04-26 19:10       ` Paolo Bonzini
2023-04-26  8:53 ` Daniel P. Berrangé
2023-04-26  9:08   ` Paolo Bonzini
2023-04-26 16:32     ` John Snow
2023-04-26 19:23       ` Paolo Bonzini
2023-05-01 19:20 ` John Snow

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