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From: Markus Armbruster <armbru@redhat.com>
To: Yong Huang <yong.huang@smartx.com>
Cc: qemu-devel <qemu-devel@nongnu.org>,
	"Peter Xu" <peterx@redhat.com>,
	"Paolo Bonzini" <pbonzini@redhat.com>,
	"Juan Quintela" <quintela@redhat.com>,
	"Dr. David Alan Gilbert" <dgilbert@redhat.com>,
	"Eric Blake" <eblake@redhat.com>,
	"Thomas Huth" <thuth@redhat.com>,
	"Laurent Vivier" <lvivier@redhat.com>,
	"Richard Henderson" <richard.henderson@linaro.org>,
	"Philippe Mathieu-Daudé" <philmd@linaro.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH QEMU v8 4/9] migration: Introduce dirty-limit capability
Date: Wed, 19 Jul 2023 11:03:39 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <87bkg8ff2s.fsf@pond.sub.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAK9dgmZeJL0M9Lc4S6o5R=GvtyXmKvBeHmTBbcfPiYE7w=uTXQ@mail.gmail.com> (Yong Huang's message of "Wed, 19 Jul 2023 14:14:45 +0800")

Yong Huang <yong.huang@smartx.com> writes:

> On Wed, Jul 19, 2023 at 1:26 PM Markus Armbruster <armbru@redhat.com> wrote:
>
>> Yong Huang <yong.huang@smartx.com> writes:
>>
>> > On Tue, Jul 18, 2023 at 7:04 PM Markus Armbruster <armbru@redhat.com>
>> wrote:
>> >
>> >> Yong Huang <yong.huang@smartx.com> writes:
>> >>
>> >> > On Thu, Jul 13, 2023 at 8:44 PM Markus Armbruster <armbru@redhat.com> wrote:

[...]

>> >> Yes, please.  But before that, I have still more questions.  "This
>> >> algorithm only works when vCPU's dirtyrate greater than
>> >> 'vcpu-dirty-limit'" is a condition: "FEATURE only works when CONDITION".
>> >>
>> > I failed to express my meaning again : ( .  "Throttle algo only works when
>> > vCPU's  dirtyrate greater than 'vcpu-dirty-limit' " should change to
>> > "vCPU throttle only works when vCPU's dirtyrate greater than
>> > 'vcpu-dirty-limit'".
>> > Not the whole "algo" !
>>
>> Let me paraphrase to make sure I got it...  The vCPU is throttled as
>> needed to keep its dirty rate within the limit set with
>> set-vcpu-dirty-limit.  Correct?
>>
> Yes. Actually set with the internal function qmp_set_vcpu_dirty_limit.
>
> And a parameter called "vcpu-dirty-limit"  of migration provided by
> dirty-limit
> aims to be the argument of qmp_set_vcpu_dirty_limit.

Alright, let me try to craft some documentation:

  # @dirty-limit: If enabled, migration will throttle vCPUs as needed to
  #     keep their dirty page rate within @vcpu-dirty-limit.  This can
  #     improve responsiveness of large guests during live migration,
  #     and can result in more stable read performance.  Requires KVM
  #     with accelerator property "dirty-ring-size" set.  (Since 8.1)

What do you think?

>> What happens when I enable the dirty limit convergence algorithm without
>> setting a limit with set-vcpu-dirty-limit?
>>
> dirty-limit will use the default value which is defined
> in migration/options.c:
> #define DEFAULT_MIGRATE_VCPU_DIRTY_LIMIT            1       /* MB/s */
>
> So the default of the dirty-limit is 1MB/s.

Is this default documented in the QAPI schema?  Hmm, looks like it isn't
before this series, but PATCH 3 fixes it.  Okay.

>> >> What happens when the condition is not met?  How can the user ensure the
>> >> condition is met?
>> >>
>> >> [...]



  reply	other threads:[~2023-07-19  9:04 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 20+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2023-07-07  4:10 [PATCH QEMU v8 0/9] migration: introduce dirtylimit capability ~hyman
2022-11-18  2:08 ` [PATCH QEMU v8 1/9] softmmu/dirtylimit: Add parameter check for hmp "set_vcpu_dirty_limit" ~hyman
2023-06-07 13:32 ` [PATCH QEMU v8 2/9] qapi/migration: Introduce x-vcpu-dirty-limit-period parameter ~hyman
2023-07-13 12:32   ` Markus Armbruster
2023-06-07 14:58 ` [PATCH QEMU v8 3/9] qapi/migration: Introduce vcpu-dirty-limit parameters ~hyman
2023-06-07 15:30 ` [PATCH QEMU v8 4/9] migration: Introduce dirty-limit capability ~hyman
2023-07-13 12:44   ` Markus Armbruster
2023-07-18  1:42     ` Yong Huang
2023-07-18 11:04       ` Markus Armbruster
2023-07-19  4:10         ` Yong Huang
2023-07-19  5:26           ` Markus Armbruster
2023-07-19  6:14             ` Yong Huang
2023-07-19  9:03               ` Markus Armbruster [this message]
2023-07-19  9:31                 ` Yong Huang
2023-06-07 15:32 ` [PATCH QEMU v8 5/9] migration: Refactor auto-converge capability logic ~hyman
2023-06-07 16:12 ` [PATCH QEMU v8 7/9] migration: Implement dirty-limit convergence algo ~hyman
2023-06-07 16:21 ` [PATCH QEMU v8 8/9] migration: Extend query-migrate to provide dirty page limit info ~hyman
2023-07-13 12:45   ` Markus Armbruster
2023-06-07 16:46 ` [PATCH QEMU v8 9/9] tests: Add migration dirty-limit capability test ~hyman
2023-06-15 13:29 ` [PATCH QEMU v8 6/9] migration: Put the detection logic before auto-converge checking ~hyman

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