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From: Vitaly Kuznetsov <vkuznets@redhat.com>
To: "Dr. David Alan Gilbert" <dgilbert@redhat.com>,
	Antoine Damhet <antoine.damhet@blade-group.com>
Cc: Juan Quintela <quintela@redhat.com>,
	Marcelo Tosatti <mtosatti@redhat.com>,
	qemu-devel@nongnu.org, "Michael S. Tsirkin" <mst@redhat.com>,
	Paolo Bonzini <pbonzini@redhat.com>
Subject: Re: [BUG] Migration hv_time rollback
Date: Wed, 16 Sep 2020 13:59:43 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <87bli6hqz4.fsf@vitty.brq.redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20200916112956.GE2833@work-vm>

"Dr. David Alan Gilbert" <dgilbert@redhat.com> writes:

> cc'ing in Vitaly who knows about the hv stuff.
>

cc'ing Marcelo who knows about clocksources :-)

> * Antoine Damhet (antoine.damhet@blade-group.com) wrote:
>> Hi,
>> 
>> We are experiencing timestamp rollbacks during live-migration of
>> Windows 10 guests

Are you migrating to the same hardware (with the same TSC frequency)? Is
TSC used as the clocksource on the host?

>>  with the following qemu configuration (linux 5.4.46
>> and qemu master):
>> ```
>> $ qemu-system-x86_64 -enable-kvm -cpu host,kvm=off,hv_time [...]
>> ```

Out of pure curiosity, what's the purpose of doing 'kvm=off'? Windows is
not going to check for KVM identification anyway so we pretend we're
Hyper-V. 

Also, have you tried adding more Hyper-V enlightenments? 

>
> How big a jump are you seeing, and how did you notice it in the guest?
>
> Dave
>
>> I have tracked the bug to the fact that `kvmclock` is not exposed and
>> disabled from qemu PoV but is in fact used by `hv-time` (in KVM).
>> 
>> I think we should enable the `kvmclock` (qemu device) if `hv-time` is
>> present and add Hyper-V support for the `kvmclock_current_nsec`
>> function.

AFAICT kvmclock_current_nsec() checks whether kvmclock was enabled by
the guest:

   if (!(env->system_time_msr & 1ULL)) {
        /* KVM clock not active */
        return 0;
    }

and this is (and way) always false for Windows guests.

>> 
>> I'm asking for advice because I am unsure this is the _right_ approach
>> and how to keep migration compatibility between qemu versions.
>> 
>> Thank you all,
>> 
>> -- 
>> Antoine 'xdbob' Damhet

-- 
Vitaly



  reply	other threads:[~2020-09-16 12:04 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 10+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2020-09-16  9:06 [BUG] Migration hv_time rollback Antoine Damhet
2020-09-16 11:29 ` Dr. David Alan Gilbert
2020-09-16 11:59   ` Vitaly Kuznetsov [this message]
2020-09-16 12:14     ` Antoine Damhet
2020-09-16 11:59   ` Antoine Damhet
2020-09-16 12:16     ` Vitaly Kuznetsov
2020-09-16 12:50       ` Vitaly Kuznetsov
2020-09-16 13:25         ` Antoine Damhet
2020-09-16 13:05   ` Paolo Bonzini
2020-09-16 13:17     ` Vitaly Kuznetsov

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