From: Rusty Russell <rusty@rustcorp.com.au>
To: "Michael S. Tsirkin" <mst@redhat.com>
Cc: Anthony Liguori <aliguori@us.ibm.com>,
qemu-devel <qemu-devel@nongnu.org>,
kvm@vger.kernel.org, virtualization@lists.linux-foundation.org
Subject: Re: [Qemu-devel] Using PCI config space to indicate config location
Date: Thu, 11 Oct 2012 11:48:22 +1030 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <87bog9957l.fsf@rustcorp.com.au> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20121010083033.GA4799@redhat.com>
"Michael S. Tsirkin" <mst@redhat.com> writes:
> On Mon, Oct 08, 2012 at 12:51:25PM +1030, Rusty Russell wrote:
>> Note before anyone gets confused; we were talking about using the PCI
>> config space to indicate what BAR(s) the virtio stuff is in. An
>> alternative would be to simply specify a new layout format in BAR1.
>
> One problem we are still left with is this: device specific
> config accesses are still non atomic.
> This is a problem for multibyte fields such as MAC address
> where MAC could change while we are accessing it.
It's also a problem for related fields, eg. console width and height, or
disk geometry.
> I was thinking about some backwards compatible way to solve this, but if
> we are willing to break compatiblity or use some mode switch, how about
> we give up on virtio config space completely, and do everything besides
> IO and ISR through guest memory?
I think there's still a benefit in the simple publishing of information:
I don't really want to add a control queue for the console. But
inevitably, once-static information can change in later versions, and
it's horrible to have config information plus a bit that says "don't use
this, use the control queue".
Here's a table from a quick audit:
Driver Config Device changes Driver writes... after init?
net Y Y N N
block Y Y Y Y
console Y Y N N
rng N N N N
balloon Y Y Y Y
scsi Y N Y N
9p Y N N N
For config space reads, I suggest the driver publish a generation count.
For writes, the standard seems to be a commit latch. We could abuse the
generation count for this: the driver writes to it to commit config
changes.
ie:
/* Fields in VIRTIO_PCI_CAP_COMMON_CFG: */
struct virtio_pci_common_cfg {
/* About the whole device. */
__le32 device_feature_select; /* read-write */
__le32 device_feature; /* read-only */
__le32 guest_feature_select; /* read-write */
__le32 guest_feature; /* read-only */
__le32 config_gen_and_latch; /* read-write */
__le16 msix_config; /* read-write */
__u8 device_status; /* read-write */
__u8 unused;
/* About a specific virtqueue. */
__le16 queue_select; /* read-write */
__le16 queue_align; /* read-write, power of 2. */
__le16 queue_size; /* read-write, power of 2. */
__le16 queue_msix_vector;/* read-write */
__le64 queue_address; /* read-write: 0xFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFF == DNE. */
};
Thoughts?
Rusty.
PS. Let's make all the virtio-device config LE, too...
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2012-10-11 1:19 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 39+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2012-09-27 0:29 [Qemu-devel] Proposal for virtio standardization Rusty Russell
2012-10-04 18:49 ` Anthony Liguori
2012-10-08 2:21 ` [Qemu-devel] Using PCI config space to indicate config location Rusty Russell
2012-10-08 13:58 ` Anthony Liguori
2012-10-08 14:58 ` Gerd Hoffmann
2012-10-08 15:09 ` Anthony Liguori
2012-10-08 20:13 ` Gerd Hoffmann
2012-10-08 20:55 ` Anthony Liguori
2012-10-08 23:56 ` Rusty Russell
2012-10-09 1:51 ` Anthony Liguori
2012-10-09 3:16 ` Rusty Russell
2012-10-09 10:17 ` Avi Kivity
2012-10-09 14:03 ` Anthony Liguori
2012-10-09 13:56 ` Anthony Liguori
2012-10-10 3:44 ` Rusty Russell
2012-10-10 11:37 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2012-10-09 21:09 ` Jamie Lokier
2012-10-10 3:44 ` Rusty Russell
2012-10-11 0:08 ` Rusty Russell
2012-10-09 6:33 ` Gerd Hoffmann
2012-10-09 15:26 ` Anthony Liguori
2012-10-09 20:24 ` Gerd Hoffmann
2012-10-10 2:54 ` Rusty Russell
2012-10-10 13:36 ` Anthony Liguori
2012-10-10 13:41 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2012-10-11 0:43 ` Rusty Russell
2012-10-10 8:34 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2012-10-10 8:30 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2012-10-11 1:18 ` Rusty Russell [this message]
2012-10-11 10:23 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2012-10-11 22:29 ` Rusty Russell
2012-10-12 9:33 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2012-10-12 9:51 ` Rusty Russell
2012-10-12 10:02 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2012-10-16 13:15 ` Rusty Russell
2012-10-16 13:30 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2012-10-16 13:52 ` Rusty Russell
2012-10-09 14:02 ` [Qemu-devel] Proposal for virtio standardization Cornelia Huck
2012-10-10 3:46 ` Rusty Russell
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