From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([208.118.235.92]:58885) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1SuCZb-0000u7-0P for qemu-devel@nongnu.org; Wed, 25 Jul 2012 21:09:03 -0400 Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1SuCZZ-0006NN-ON for qemu-devel@nongnu.org; Wed, 25 Jul 2012 21:09:02 -0400 Received: from mail-yx0-f173.google.com ([209.85.213.173]:64351) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1SuCZZ-0006NJ-JU for qemu-devel@nongnu.org; Wed, 25 Jul 2012 21:09:01 -0400 Received: by yenl1 with SMTP id l1so1394067yen.4 for ; Wed, 25 Jul 2012 18:09:00 -0700 (PDT) From: Anthony Liguori In-Reply-To: <1343262144.6986.0.camel@pasglop> References: <1343188660.3715.41.camel@pasglop> <500FC9F8.6010002@redhat.com> <1343213618.3715.48.camel@pasglop> <500FEB07.5010009@redhat.com> <1343223712.3715.50.camel@pasglop> <500FFBA7.80700@redhat.com> <1343253711.3715.52.camel@pasglop> <1343262144.6986.0.camel@pasglop> Date: Wed, 25 Jul 2012 20:08:55 -0500 Message-ID: <87boj3wcpj.fsf@codemonkey.ws> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Subject: Re: [Qemu-devel] vga-pci and MMIO BAR List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , To: Benjamin Herrenschmidt , Avi Kivity Cc: qemu-devel@nongnu.org Benjamin Herrenschmidt writes: > On Thu, 2012-07-26 at 08:01 +1000, Benjamin Herrenschmidt wrote: >> On Wed, 2012-07-25 at 16:59 +0300, Avi Kivity wrote: >> > > Why ? Who cares ? Especially with vga -std which nobody uses in >> > practice >> > > on x86... >> > >> > We'll find out who cares when we break it. >> >> Chances are pretty much close to 0, especially adding a BAR ... do we >> even use vga "std" on anything ? >> >> > We have a system in place to prevent intentional breakage, let's use >> > it. >> >> And that system is never improve a device ? :-) Or am I missing >> something ? > > Allright, had a chat with Anthony who explained the bit I was missing > about what you meant by -M old... I'll make sure I don't break that. For the benefit of the list, Ben didn't know that we could just add a qdev property to control whether the MMIO BAR was visible making it just a tiny bit of global magic in the old PC machine models. PPC still doesn't do versioning of machine models. Ya'll probably should spend some time looking at what's done for the PC machine types and start doing the same for spapr. Regards, Anthony Liguori > > Cheers, > Ben