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From: Max Reitz <mreitz@redhat.com>
To: Peter Lieven <pl@kamp.de>, qemu-devel@nongnu.org, qemu-block@nongnu.org
Cc: kwolf@redhat.com
Subject: Re: [Qemu-devel] [PATCH] qemu-img: align is_allocated_sectors to 4k
Date: Mon, 11 Jun 2018 16:04:30 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <87f37459-a276-035f-6ef3-5892061b689c@redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <6a1e0e02-0c43-7ca5-322a-565232802f75@kamp.de>

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On 2018-06-11 15:59, Peter Lieven wrote:
> Am 11.06.2018 um 15:30 schrieb Max Reitz:
>> On 2018-06-07 14:46, Peter Lieven wrote:
>>> We currently don't enforce that the sparse segments we detect during
>>> convert are
>>> aligned. This leads to unnecessary and costly read-modify-write
>>> cycles either
>>> internally in Qemu or in the background on the storage device as
>>> nearly all
>>> modern filesystems or hardware has a 4k alignment internally.
>>>
>>> As we per default set the min_sparse size to 4k it makes perfectly
>>> sense to ensure
>>> that these sparse holes in the file are placed at 4k boundaries.
>>>
>>> The number of RMW cycles when converting an example image [1] to a
>>> raw device that
>>> has 4k sector size is about 4600 4k read requests to perform a total
>>> of about 15000
>>> write requests. With this path the 4600 additional read requests are
>>> eliminated.
>>>
>>> [1]
>>> https://cloud-images.ubuntu.com/releases/16.04/release/ubuntu-16.04-server-cloudimg-amd64-disk1.vmdk
>>>
>>>
>>> Signed-off-by: Peter Lieven <pl@kamp.de>
>>> ---
>>>   qemu-img.c | 21 +++++++++++++++------
>>>   1 file changed, 15 insertions(+), 6 deletions(-)
>> I like the idea, but it doesn't seem guaranteed that
>> is_allocated_sectors() is called on aligned offsets, so this alignment
>> work may still leave things unaligned.
> 
> I can't image why this should happen. As long as the alignment devides
> the buffer size we either
> write or skip aligned bytes. Maybe get_block_status returns an unaligned
> number of sectors?

Yes, because the source medium does not need to be the same as the
destination (so the source may have e.g. 512-byte clusters).

>> Furthermore, we should probably not blindly assume 4k but instead use
>> some block limit of the target, like pwrite_zeroes_alignment, or
>> pdiscard_alignment, depending on the case.  (Or probably still
>> min_sparse, if that's less.)
>>
>> Since is_allocated_sectors_min() (the only caller of
>> is_allocated_sectors()) is called from just a single place, taking those
>> factors into account should be possible.
> 
> I also thought of this, but for instance for raw-posix I always get a
> request_alignment of 1.

Yes, because request_alignment is a hard requirement.  With caching, you
can send requests with any alignment, so it's 1.

pwrite_zeroes_alignment and pdiscard_alignment are described as "Optimal
alignment", so those should contain the values we/you want.  If they are
0, then you should probably fall back to opt_transfer instead of
request_alignment.

Max

> But maybe the alignments you proposed produce a better result. I will
> check that.


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  reply	other threads:[~2018-06-11 14:04 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 6+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2018-06-07 12:46 [Qemu-devel] [PATCH] qemu-img: align is_allocated_sectors to 4k Peter Lieven
2018-06-11 13:30 ` Max Reitz
2018-06-11 13:59   ` Peter Lieven
2018-06-11 14:04     ` Max Reitz [this message]
2018-06-11 14:07       ` Peter Lieven
2018-06-25 20:29       ` Peter Lieven

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