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From: Markus Armbruster <armbru@redhat.com>
To: Jonathan Cameron <Jonathan.Cameron@Huawei.com>
Cc: <ankita@nvidia.com>,  <marcel.apfelbaum@gmail.com>,
	<philmd@linaro.org>,  <mst@redhat.com>,  <qemu-devel@nongnu.org>,
	 Dave Jiang <dave.jiang@intel.com>,
	 Huang Ying <ying.huang@intel.com>,
	 Paolo Bonzini <pbonzini@redhat.com>,  <eduardo@habkost.net>,
	<imammedo@redhat.com>,  <linux-cxl@vger.kernel.org>,
	<linuxarm@huawei.com>,  Michael Roth <michael.roth@amd.com>,
	 Ani Sinha <anisinha@redhat.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 3/6] hw/acpi: Generic Port Affinity Structure support
Date: Tue, 30 Apr 2024 08:55:12 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <87frv3e3vz.fsf@pond.sub.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20240429185046.00002a7c@Huawei.com> (Jonathan Cameron's message of "Mon, 29 Apr 2024 18:50:46 +0100")

Jonathan Cameron <Jonathan.Cameron@Huawei.com> writes:

> On Tue, 23 Apr 2024 12:56:21 +0200
> Markus Armbruster <armbru@redhat.com> wrote:
>
>> Jonathan Cameron <Jonathan.Cameron@huawei.com> writes:
>> 
>> > These are very similar to the recently added Generic Initiators
>> > but instead of representing an initiator of memory traffic they
>> > represent an edge point beyond which may lie either targets or
>> > initiators.  Here we add these ports such that they may
>> > be targets of hmat_lb records to describe the latency and
>> > bandwidth from host side initiators to the port.  A descoverable
>> > mechanism such as UEFI CDAT read from CXL devices and switches
>> > is used to discover the remainder fo the path and the OS can build
>> > up full latency and bandwidth numbers as need for work and data
>> > placement decisions.
>> >
>> > Signed-off-by: Jonathan Cameron <Jonathan.Cameron@huawei.com>
>
> Hi Markus,
>
> I've again managed a bad job of defining an interface - thanks for
> your help!

Good interfaces are hard!

>> > ---
>> >  qapi/qom.json                            |  18 +++
>> >  include/hw/acpi/acpi_generic_initiator.h |  18 ++-
>> >  include/hw/pci/pci_bridge.h              |   1 +
>> >  hw/acpi/acpi_generic_initiator.c         | 141 +++++++++++++++++------
>> >  hw/pci-bridge/pci_expander_bridge.c      |   1 -
>> >  5 files changed, 141 insertions(+), 38 deletions(-)
>> >
>> > diff --git a/qapi/qom.json b/qapi/qom.json
>> > index 85e6b4f84a..5480d9ca24 100644
>> > --- a/qapi/qom.json
>> > +++ b/qapi/qom.json
>> > @@ -826,6 +826,22 @@
>> >    'data': { 'pci-dev': 'str',
>> >              'node': 'uint32' } }
>> >  
>> > +
>> > +##
>> > +# @AcpiGenericPortProperties:
>> > +#
>> > +# Properties for acpi-generic-port objects.
>> > +#
>> > +# @pci-bus: PCI bus of the hostbridge associated with this SRAT entry  
>> 
>> What's this exactly?  A QOM path?  A qdev ID?  Something else?
>
> QOM path I believe as going to call object_resolve_path_type() on it.

QOM path then.

> Oddity is it's defined for the bus, not the host bridge that
> we care about as the host bridge doesn't have a convenient id to let
> us identify it.
>
> e.g. It is specified via --device pxb-cxl,id=XXXX
> of TYPE_PXB_CXL_HOST in the command line but ends up on the
> TYPE_PCI_BUS with parent set to the PXB_CXL_HOST.
> Normally we just want this bus for hanging root ports of it.
>
> I can clarify it's the QOM path but I'm struggling a bit to explain
> the relationship without resorting to an example.
> This should also not mention SRAT as at some stage I'd expect DT
> bindings to provide similar functionality.

Let's start with an example.  Not to put it into the doc comment, only
to help me understand what you need.  Hopefully I can then assist with
improving the interface and/or its documentation.

>> > +#
>> > +# @node: numa node associated with the PCI device  
>> 
>> NUMA
>> 
>> Is this a NUMA node ID?
>
> Fair question with a non obvious answer.  ACPI wise it's a proximity domain.
> In every other SRAT entry (which define proximity domains) this does map
> to a NUMA node in an operating system as they contain at least either some
> form of memory access initiator (CPU, Generic Initiator etc) or a target (memory).
>
> A Generic Port is subtly different in that it defines a proximity domain
> that in of itself is not what we'd think of as a NUMA node but
> rather an entity that exists to provide the info to the OS to stitch
> together non discoverable and discoverable buses.
>
> So I should have gone with something more specific. Could add this to
> the parameter docs, or is it too much?
>
> @node: Similar to a NUMA node ID, but instead of providing a reference
>        point used for defining NUMA distances and access characteristics
>        to memory or from an initiator (e.g. CPU), this node defines the
>        boundary point between non discoverable system buses which must be
>        discovered from firmware, and a discoverable bus.  NUMA distances
>        and access characteristics are defined to and from that point,
>        but for system software to establish full initiator to target
>        characteristics this information must be combined with information
>        retrieved form the discoverable part of the path.  An example would
>        use CDAT information read from devices and switches in conjunction
>        with link characteristics read from PCIe Configuration space.

This is mostly greek to me :)  Bit I don't think it's too much.

>> > +#
>> > +# Since: 9.1
>> > +##
>> > +{ 'struct': 'AcpiGenericPortProperties',
>> > +  'data': { 'pci-bus': 'str',
>> > +            'node': 'uint32' } }
>> > +
>> >  ##
>> >  # @RngProperties:
>> >  #
>> > @@ -944,6 +960,7 @@
>> >  { 'enum': 'ObjectType',
>> >    'data': [
>> >      'acpi-generic-initiator',
>> > +    'acpi-generic-port',
>> >      'authz-list',
>> >      'authz-listfile',
>> >      'authz-pam',
>> > @@ -1016,6 +1033,7 @@
>> >    'discriminator': 'qom-type',
>> >    'data': {
>> >        'acpi-generic-initiator':     'AcpiGenericInitiatorProperties',
>> > +      'acpi-generic-port':          'AcpiGenericPortProperties',
>> >        'authz-list':                 'AuthZListProperties',
>> >        'authz-listfile':             'AuthZListFileProperties',
>> >        'authz-pam':                  'AuthZPAMProperties',  
>> 
>> [...]
>> 
>> 



  reply	other threads:[~2024-04-30  6:56 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 15+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2024-04-03 10:29 [PATCH 0/6 qemu] acpi: NUMA nodes for CXL HB as GP + complex NUMA test Jonathan Cameron via
2024-04-03 10:29 ` [PATCH 1/6] hw/acpi/GI: Fix trivial parameter alignment issue Jonathan Cameron via
2024-04-08  2:58   ` Ankit Agrawal
2024-04-03 10:29 ` [PATCH 2/6] hw/acpi: Insert an acpi-generic-node base under acpi-generic-initiator Jonathan Cameron via
2024-04-03 10:29 ` [PATCH 3/6] hw/acpi: Generic Port Affinity Structure support Jonathan Cameron via
2024-04-23 10:56   ` Markus Armbruster
2024-04-29 17:50     ` Jonathan Cameron via
2024-04-30  6:55       ` Markus Armbruster [this message]
2024-04-30 10:43         ` Jonathan Cameron via
2024-06-04 12:06           ` Markus Armbruster
2024-06-04 13:42             ` Jonathan Cameron via
2024-04-03 10:29 ` [PATCH 4/6] bios-tables-test: Allow for new acpihmat-generic-x test data Jonathan Cameron via
2024-04-03 10:29 ` [PATCH 5/6] bios-tables-test: Add complex SRAT / HMAT test for GI GP Jonathan Cameron via
2024-04-03 10:29 ` [PATCH 6/6] bios-tables-test: Add data for complex numa test (GI, GP etc) Jonathan Cameron via
2024-04-12  7:39 ` [PATCH 0/6 qemu] acpi: NUMA nodes for CXL HB as GP + complex NUMA test Huang, Ying

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