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From: Markus Armbruster <armbru@redhat.com>
To: Fabiano Rosas <farosas@suse.de>
Cc: qemu-devel@nongnu.org,  berrange@redhat.com,
	 Juan Quintela <quintela@redhat.com>,
	 Peter Xu <peterx@redhat.com>,
	 Leonardo Bras <leobras@redhat.com>,
	 Claudio Fontana <cfontana@suse.de>,
	 Eric Blake <eblake@redhat.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v2 14/29] migration/ram: Introduce 'fixed-ram' migration capability
Date: Tue, 24 Oct 2023 07:33:34 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <87fs20vb2p.fsf@pond.sub.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20231023203608.26370-15-farosas@suse.de> (Fabiano Rosas's message of "Mon, 23 Oct 2023 17:35:53 -0300")

Fabiano Rosas <farosas@suse.de> writes:

> Add a new migration capability 'fixed-ram'.
>
> The core of the feature is to ensure that each ram page has a specific
> offset in the resulting migration stream. The reason why we'd want
> such behavior are two fold:
>
>  - When doing a 'fixed-ram' migration the resulting file will have a
>    bounded size, since pages which are dirtied multiple times will
>    always go to a fixed location in the file, rather than constantly
>    being added to a sequential stream. This eliminates cases where a vm
>    with, say, 1G of ram can result in a migration file that's 10s of
>    GBs, provided that the workload constantly redirties memory.
>
>  - It paves the way to implement DIRECT_IO-enabled save/restore of the
>    migration stream as the pages are ensured to be written at aligned
>    offsets.
>
> For now, enabling the capability has no effect. The next couple of
> patches implement the core funcionality.
>
> Signed-off-by: Fabiano Rosas <farosas@suse.de>
> ---
>  docs/devel/migration.rst | 14 ++++++++++++++
>  migration/options.c      | 37 +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
>  migration/options.h      |  1 +
>  migration/savevm.c       |  1 +
>  qapi/migration.json      |  5 ++++-
>  5 files changed, 57 insertions(+), 1 deletion(-)
>
> diff --git a/docs/devel/migration.rst b/docs/devel/migration.rst
> index c3e1400c0c..6f898b5dbd 100644
> --- a/docs/devel/migration.rst
> +++ b/docs/devel/migration.rst
> @@ -566,6 +566,20 @@ Others (especially either older devices or system devices which for
>  some reason don't have a bus concept) make use of the ``instance id``
>  for otherwise identically named devices.
>  
> +Fixed-ram format
> +----------------
> +
> +When the ``fixed-ram`` capability is enabled, a slightly different
> +stream format is used for the RAM section. Instead of having a
> +sequential stream of pages that follow the RAMBlock headers, the dirty
> +pages for a RAMBlock follow its header. This ensures that each RAM
> +page has a fixed offset in the resulting migration stream.

This requires the migration stream to be seekable, as documented in the
QAPI schema below.  I think it's worth documenting here, as well.

> +
> +The ``fixed-ram`` capaility can be enabled in both source and
> +destination with:
> +
> +    ``migrate_set_capability fixed-ram on``

Effect of enabling on the destination?

What happens when we enable it only on one end?

> +
>  Return path
>  -----------
>  

[...]

> diff --git a/qapi/migration.json b/qapi/migration.json
> index 74f12adc0e..1317dd32ab 100644
> --- a/qapi/migration.json
> +++ b/qapi/migration.json
> @@ -527,6 +527,9 @@
>  #     VM before migration for an optimal migration performance.
>  #     Enabled by default. (since 8.1)
>  #
> +# @fixed-ram: Migrate using fixed offsets for each RAM page. Requires

Two spaces between sentences for consistency, please.

> +#             a seekable transport such as a file.  (since 8.1)

What is a migration transport?  migration.json doesn't define the term.

Which transports are seekable?

Out of curiosity: what happens if the transport isn't seekable?

> +#
>  # Features:
>  #
>  # @unstable: Members @x-colo and @x-ignore-shared are experimental.
> @@ -543,7 +546,7 @@
>             { 'name': 'x-ignore-shared', 'features': [ 'unstable' ] },
>             'validate-uuid', 'background-snapshot',
>             'zero-copy-send', 'postcopy-preempt', 'switchover-ack',
> -           'dirty-limit', 'auto-pause'] }
> +           'dirty-limit', 'auto-pause', 'fixed-ram'] }
>  
>  ##
>  # @MigrationCapabilityStatus:



  reply	other threads:[~2023-10-24  5:34 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 128+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2023-10-23 20:35 [PATCH v2 00/29] migration: File based migration with multifd and fixed-ram Fabiano Rosas
2023-10-23 20:35 ` [PATCH v2 01/29] tests/qtest: migration events Fabiano Rosas
2023-10-25  9:44   ` Thomas Huth
2023-10-25 10:14   ` Daniel P. Berrangé
2023-10-25 13:21   ` Fabiano Rosas
2023-10-25 13:33     ` Steven Sistare
2023-10-23 20:35 ` [PATCH v2 02/29] tests/qtest: Move QTestMigrationState to libqtest Fabiano Rosas
2023-10-25 10:17   ` Daniel P. Berrangé
2023-10-25 13:19     ` Fabiano Rosas
2023-10-23 20:35 ` [PATCH v2 03/29] tests/qtest: Allow waiting for migration events Fabiano Rosas
2023-10-23 20:35 ` [PATCH v2 04/29] migration: Return the saved state from global_state_store Fabiano Rosas
2023-10-25 10:19   ` Daniel P. Berrangé
2023-10-23 20:35 ` [PATCH v2 05/29] migration: Introduce global_state_store_once Fabiano Rosas
2023-10-23 20:35 ` [PATCH v2 06/29] migration: Add auto-pause capability Fabiano Rosas
2023-10-24  5:25   ` Markus Armbruster
2023-10-24 18:12     ` Fabiano Rosas
2023-10-25  5:33       ` Markus Armbruster
2023-10-25  8:48   ` Daniel P. Berrangé
2023-10-25 13:57     ` Fabiano Rosas
2023-10-25 14:20       ` Daniel P. Berrangé
2023-10-25 14:58         ` Peter Xu
2023-10-25 15:25           ` Daniel P. Berrangé
2023-10-25 15:36             ` Peter Xu
2023-10-25 15:40               ` Daniel P. Berrangé
2023-10-25 17:20                 ` Peter Xu
2023-10-25 17:31                   ` Daniel P. Berrangé
2023-10-25 19:28                     ` Peter Xu
2023-10-23 20:35 ` [PATCH v2 07/29] migration: Run "file:" migration with a stopped VM Fabiano Rosas
2023-10-23 20:35 ` [PATCH v2 08/29] tests/qtest: File migration auto-pause tests Fabiano Rosas
2023-10-23 20:35 ` [PATCH v2 09/29] io: add and implement QIO_CHANNEL_FEATURE_SEEKABLE for channel file Fabiano Rosas
2023-10-23 20:35 ` [PATCH v2 10/29] io: Add generic pwritev/preadv interface Fabiano Rosas
2023-10-24  8:18   ` Daniel P. Berrangé
2023-10-24 19:06     ` Fabiano Rosas
2023-10-23 20:35 ` [PATCH v2 11/29] io: implement io_pwritev/preadv for QIOChannelFile Fabiano Rosas
2023-10-23 20:35 ` [PATCH v2 12/29] migration/qemu-file: add utility methods for working with seekable channels Fabiano Rosas
2023-10-25 10:22   ` Daniel P. Berrangé
2023-10-23 20:35 ` [PATCH v2 13/29] migration: fixed-ram: Add URI compatibility check Fabiano Rosas
2023-10-25 10:27   ` Daniel P. Berrangé
2023-10-31 16:06   ` Peter Xu
2023-10-23 20:35 ` [PATCH v2 14/29] migration/ram: Introduce 'fixed-ram' migration capability Fabiano Rosas
2023-10-24  5:33   ` Markus Armbruster [this message]
2023-10-24 18:35     ` Fabiano Rosas
2023-10-25  6:18       ` Markus Armbruster
2023-10-23 20:35 ` [PATCH v2 15/29] migration/ram: Add support for 'fixed-ram' outgoing migration Fabiano Rosas
2023-10-25  9:39   ` Daniel P. Berrangé
2023-10-25 14:03     ` Fabiano Rosas
2023-11-01 15:23     ` Peter Xu
2023-11-01 15:52       ` Daniel P. Berrangé
2023-11-01 16:24         ` Peter Xu
2023-11-01 16:37           ` Daniel P. Berrangé
2023-11-01 17:30             ` Peter Xu
2023-10-31 16:52   ` Peter Xu
2023-10-31 17:33     ` Fabiano Rosas
2023-10-31 17:59       ` Peter Xu
2023-10-23 20:35 ` [PATCH v2 16/29] migration/ram: Add support for 'fixed-ram' migration restore Fabiano Rosas
2023-10-25  9:43   ` Daniel P. Berrangé
2023-10-25 14:07     ` Fabiano Rosas
2023-10-31 19:03       ` Peter Xu
2023-11-01  9:26         ` Daniel P. Berrangé
2023-11-01 14:21           ` Peter Xu
2023-11-01 14:28             ` Daniel P. Berrangé
2023-11-01 15:00               ` Peter Xu
2023-11-06 13:18                 ` Fabiano Rosas
2023-11-06 21:00                   ` Peter Xu
2023-11-07  9:02                     ` Daniel P. Berrangé
2023-10-31 19:09   ` Peter Xu
2023-10-31 20:00     ` Fabiano Rosas
2023-10-23 20:35 ` [PATCH v2 17/29] tests/qtest: migration-test: Add tests for fixed-ram file-based migration Fabiano Rosas
2023-10-23 20:35 ` [PATCH v2 18/29] migration/multifd: Allow multifd without packets Fabiano Rosas
2023-10-23 20:35 ` [PATCH v2 19/29] migration/multifd: Add outgoing QIOChannelFile support Fabiano Rosas
2023-10-25  9:52   ` Daniel P. Berrangé
2023-10-25 14:12     ` Fabiano Rosas
2023-10-25 14:23       ` Daniel P. Berrangé
2023-10-25 15:00         ` Fabiano Rosas
2023-10-25 15:26           ` Daniel P. Berrangé
2023-10-31 20:11   ` Peter Xu
2023-10-23 20:35 ` [PATCH v2 20/29] migration/multifd: Add incoming " Fabiano Rosas
2023-10-25 10:29   ` Daniel P. Berrangé
2023-10-25 14:18     ` Fabiano Rosas
2023-10-31 21:28   ` Peter Xu
2023-10-23 20:36 ` [PATCH v2 21/29] migration/multifd: Add pages to the receiving side Fabiano Rosas
2023-10-31 22:10   ` Peter Xu
2023-10-31 23:18     ` Fabiano Rosas
2023-11-01 15:55       ` Peter Xu
2023-11-01 17:20         ` Fabiano Rosas
2023-11-01 17:35           ` Peter Xu
2023-11-01 18:14             ` Fabiano Rosas
2023-10-23 20:36 ` [PATCH v2 22/29] io: Add a pwritev/preadv version that takes a discontiguous iovec Fabiano Rosas
2023-10-24  8:50   ` Daniel P. Berrangé
2023-10-23 20:36 ` [PATCH v2 23/29] migration/ram: Add a wrapper for fixed-ram shadow bitmap Fabiano Rosas
2023-11-01 14:29   ` Peter Xu
2023-10-23 20:36 ` [PATCH v2 24/29] migration/ram: Ignore multifd flush when doing fixed-ram migration Fabiano Rosas
2023-10-25  9:09   ` Daniel P. Berrangé
2023-10-23 20:36 ` [PATCH v2 25/29] migration/multifd: Support outgoing fixed-ram stream format Fabiano Rosas
2023-10-25  9:23   ` Daniel P. Berrangé
2023-10-25 14:21     ` Fabiano Rosas
2023-10-23 20:36 ` [PATCH v2 26/29] migration/multifd: Support incoming " Fabiano Rosas
2023-10-23 20:36 ` [PATCH v2 27/29] tests/qtest: Add a multifd + fixed-ram migration test Fabiano Rosas
2023-10-23 20:36 ` [PATCH v2 28/29] migration: Add direct-io parameter Fabiano Rosas
2023-10-24  5:41   ` Markus Armbruster
2023-10-24 19:32     ` Fabiano Rosas
2023-10-25  6:23       ` Markus Armbruster
2023-10-25  8:44       ` Daniel P. Berrangé
2023-10-25 14:32         ` Fabiano Rosas
2023-10-25 14:43           ` Daniel P. Berrangé
2023-10-25 17:30             ` Fabiano Rosas
2023-10-25 17:45               ` Daniel P. Berrangé
2023-10-25 18:10                 ` Fabiano Rosas
2023-10-30 22:51             ` Fabiano Rosas
2023-10-31  9:03               ` Daniel P. Berrangé
2023-10-31 13:05                 ` Fabiano Rosas
2023-10-31 13:45                   ` Daniel P. Berrangé
2023-10-31 14:33                     ` Fabiano Rosas
2023-10-31 15:22                       ` Daniel P. Berrangé
2023-10-31 15:52                         ` Fabiano Rosas
2023-10-31 15:58                           ` Daniel P. Berrangé
2023-10-31 19:05                             ` Fabiano Rosas
2023-11-01  9:30                               ` Daniel P. Berrangé
2023-11-01 12:16                                 ` Fabiano Rosas
2023-11-01 12:23                                   ` Daniel P. Berrangé
2023-11-01 12:30                                     ` Fabiano Rosas
2023-10-24  8:33   ` Daniel P. Berrangé
2023-10-24 19:06     ` Fabiano Rosas
2023-10-25  9:07   ` Daniel P. Berrangé
2023-10-25 14:48     ` Fabiano Rosas
2023-10-25 15:22       ` Daniel P. Berrangé
2023-10-23 20:36 ` [PATCH v2 29/29] tests/qtest: Add a test for migration with direct-io and multifd Fabiano Rosas
2023-10-25  9:25   ` Daniel P. Berrangé

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