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From: "Alex Bennée" <alex.bennee@linaro.org>
To: Rowan Hart <rowanbhart@gmail.com>
Cc: qemu-devel@nongnu.org,
	"Pierrick Bouvier" <pierrick.bouvier@linaro.org>,
	"Paolo Bonzini" <pbonzini@redhat.com>,
	"Richard Henderson" <richard.henderson@linaro.org>,
	"Philippe Mathieu-Daudé" <philmd@linaro.org>,
	"Yanan Wang" <wangyanan55@huawei.com>,
	"Mahmoud Mandour" <ma.mandourr@gmail.com>,
	"Marcel Apfelbaum" <marcel.apfelbaum@gmail.com>,
	"Alexandre Iooss" <erdnaxe@crans.org>,
	"Zhao Liu" <zhao1.liu@intel.com>,
	"Eduardo Habkost" <eduardo@habkost.net>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v12 5/7] plugins: Add memory hardware address read/write API
Date: Tue, 17 Jun 2025 11:24:26 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <87h60evf6t.fsf@draig.linaro.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20250611232409.2936521-6-rowanbhart@gmail.com> (Rowan Hart's message of "Wed, 11 Jun 2025 16:24:07 -0700")

Rowan Hart <rowanbhart@gmail.com> writes:

> From: novafacing <rowanbhart@gmail.com>
>
> This patch adds functions to the plugins API to allow plugins to read
> and write memory via hardware addresses. The functions use the current
> address space of the current CPU in order to avoid exposing address
> space information to users. A later patch may want to add a function to
> permit a specified address space, for example to facilitate
> architecture-specific plugins that want to operate on them, for example
> reading ARM secure memory.
>
> Reviewed-by: Pierrick Bouvier <pierrick.bouvier@linaro.org>
> Signed-off-by: Rowan Hart <rowanbhart@gmail.com>
<snip>
> +/**
> + * qemu_plugin_write_memory_hwaddr() - write to memory using a hardware address
> + *
> + * @addr: A physical address to write to
> + * @data: A byte array containing the data to write
> + *
> + * The contents of @data will be written to memory starting at the hardware
> + * address @addr in the current address space for the current vCPU.
> + *
> + * This function does not guarantee consistency of writes, nor does it ensure
> + * that pending writes are flushed either before or after the write takes place,
> + * so callers should take care when calling this function in plugin callbacks to
> + * avoid depending on the existence of data written using this function which
> + * may be overwritten afterward. In addition, this function requires that the
> + * pages containing the address are not locked. Practically, this means that you
> + * should not write instruction memory in a current translation block inside a
> + * callback registered with qemu_plugin_register_vcpu_tb_trans_cb.
> + *
> + * You can, for example, write instruction memory in a current translation block
> + * in a callback registered with qemu_plugin_register_vcpu_tb_exec_cb, although
> + * be aware that the write will not be flushed until after the translation block
> + * has finished executing.  In general, this function should be used to write
> + * data memory or to patch code at a known address, not in a current translation
> + * block.

My main concern about the long list of caveats for writing memory is the
user will almost certainly cause weird things to happen which will then
be hard to debug. I can see the patcher example however it would be
useful to know what other practical uses this interface provides.

<snip>

-- 
Alex Bennée
Virtualisation Tech Lead @ Linaro


  reply	other threads:[~2025-06-17 10:24 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 18+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2025-06-11 23:24 [PATCH v12 0/7] Add additional plugin API functions to read and write memory and registers Rowan Hart
2025-06-11 23:24 ` [PATCH v12 1/7] gdbstub: Expose gdb_write_register function to consumers of gdbstub Rowan Hart
2025-06-11 23:24 ` [PATCH v12 2/7] plugins: Add register write API Rowan Hart
2025-06-11 23:24 ` [PATCH v12 3/7] plugins: Add enforcement of QEMU_PLUGIN_CB flags in register R/W callbacks Rowan Hart
2025-06-11 23:24 ` [PATCH v12 4/7] plugins: Add memory virtual address write API Rowan Hart
2025-06-11 23:24 ` [PATCH v12 5/7] plugins: Add memory hardware address read/write API Rowan Hart
2025-06-17 10:24   ` Alex Bennée [this message]
2025-06-17 15:46     ` Rowan Hart
2025-06-20 13:36       ` Alex Bennée
2025-06-17 17:38     ` Pierrick Bouvier
2025-06-11 23:24 ` [PATCH v12 6/7] plugins: Add patcher plugin and test Rowan Hart
2025-06-13 15:19   ` Pierrick Bouvier
2025-06-17 10:35   ` Alex Bennée
2025-06-11 23:24 ` [PATCH v12 7/7] plugins: Update plugin version and add notes Rowan Hart
2025-06-12  3:41 ` [PATCH v12 0/7] Add additional plugin API functions to read and write memory and registers Rowan Hart
2025-06-13 15:19 ` Pierrick Bouvier
2025-06-13 15:57   ` Alex Bennée
2025-06-19 16:20 ` Rowan Hart

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