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From: Fabiano Rosas <farosas@suse.de>
To: Peter Xu <peterx@redhat.com>
Cc: "Philippe Mathieu-Daudé" <philmd@linaro.org>,
	qemu-devel@nongnu.org, qemu-block@nongnu.org,
	"Laurent Vivier" <lvivier@redhat.com>,
	"Tyrone Ting" <kfting@nuvoton.com>,
	"Bin Meng" <bmeng.cn@gmail.com>, "Hao Wu" <wuhaotsh@google.com>,
	"Francisco Iglesias" <francisco.iglesias@amd.com>,
	"Paolo Bonzini" <pbonzini@redhat.com>,
	"Thomas Huth" <thuth@redhat.com>,
	"Cédric Le Goater" <clg@kaod.org>,
	qemu-arm@nongnu.org, "Joel Stanley" <joel@jms.id.au>,
	"Sai Pavan Boddu" <sai.pavan.boddu@amd.com>,
	devel@lists.libvirt.org, "Luc Michel" <luc.michel@amd.com>,
	"Cédric Le Goater" <clg@redhat.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v3 06/17] hw/sd/sdcard: Do not store vendor data on block drive (CMD56)
Date: Thu, 11 Jul 2024 11:44:08 -0300	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <87h6cwdm4n.fsf@suse.de> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <Zo_n39Vusyy-O_48@x1n>

Peter Xu <peterx@redhat.com> writes:

> On Thu, Jul 11, 2024 at 10:34:12AM -0300, Fabiano Rosas wrote:
>> Is there an easy way to look at a field and tell in which machine type's
>> timeframe it was introduced?
>
> I am not aware of any.
>
>> If the machine type of that era has been removed, then the field is free
>> to go as well. I'd prefer if we had a hard link instead of just counting
>> years. Maybe we should to that mapping at the machine deprecation time?
>> As in, "look at the unused fields introduced in that timeframe and mark
>> them free".
>
> We can do that, but depending on how easy it would be. That can be an
> overkill to me if it's non-trivial.  When it becomes complicated, I'd
> rather make machine compat property easier to use so we always stick with
> that.  Currently it's not as easy to use.
>
> Maybe we shouldn't make it a common rule to let people reuse the UNUSED
> fields, even if in this case it's probably fine?
>
> E.g. I don't think it's a huge deal to keep all UNUSED fields forever -
> sending 512B zeros for only one specific device isn't an issue even if kept
> forever.
>
> If "over 6 years" would be okay and simple enough, then maybe we can stick
> with that (and only if people would like to reuse a field and ask; that's
> after all not required..).  If more than that I doubt whether we should
> spend time working on covering all the fields.

I'm fine with a simple rule.

But of course, that means we cannot claim to support all kinds of
forward migrations anymore. Only those in the 6 year period.


  reply	other threads:[~2024-07-11 14:45 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 35+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2024-06-27 16:22 [PATCH v3 00/17] hw/sd/sdcard: Accumulation of cleanups and fixes Philippe Mathieu-Daudé
2024-06-27 16:22 ` [PATCH v3 01/17] hw/sd/sdcard: Deprecate support for spec v1.10 Philippe Mathieu-Daudé
2024-06-27 16:22 ` [PATCH v3 02/17] hw/sd/sdcard: Use spec v3.01 by default Philippe Mathieu-Daudé
2024-06-27 16:22 ` [PATCH v3 03/17] hw/sd/sdcard: Track last command used to help logging Philippe Mathieu-Daudé
2024-06-27 16:22 ` [PATCH v3 04/17] hw/sd/sdcard: Trace block offset in READ/WRITE data accesses Philippe Mathieu-Daudé
2024-06-27 16:22 ` [PATCH v3 05/17] hw/sd/sdcard: Trace requested address computed by sd_req_get_address() Philippe Mathieu-Daudé
2024-06-27 16:22 ` [PATCH v3 06/17] hw/sd/sdcard: Do not store vendor data on block drive (CMD56) Philippe Mathieu-Daudé
2024-07-09 20:38   ` Fabiano Rosas
2024-07-09 21:01     ` Peter Xu
2024-07-10 14:08       ` Fabiano Rosas
2024-07-10 15:01         ` Peter Xu
2024-07-10 16:21           ` Fabiano Rosas
2024-07-10 19:13             ` Peter Xu
2024-07-10 19:48               ` Fabiano Rosas
2024-07-10 20:11                 ` Peter Xu
2024-07-10 21:38                   ` Fabiano Rosas
2024-07-10 22:06                     ` Peter Xu
2024-07-11 13:34                       ` Fabiano Rosas
2024-07-11 14:10                         ` Peter Xu
2024-07-11 14:44                           ` Fabiano Rosas [this message]
2024-07-11 14:56                             ` Peter Xu
2024-07-11 15:03                               ` Fabiano Rosas
2024-06-27 16:22 ` [PATCH v3 07/17] hw/sd/sdcard: Send WRITE_PROT bits MSB first (CMD30) Philippe Mathieu-Daudé
2024-06-27 16:22 ` [PATCH v3 08/17] hw/sd/sdcard: Send NUM_WR_BLOCKS bits MSB first (ACMD22) Philippe Mathieu-Daudé
2024-06-27 16:22 ` [PATCH v3 09/17] hw/sd/sdcard: Use READY_FOR_DATA definition instead of magic value Philippe Mathieu-Daudé
2024-06-27 16:22 ` [PATCH v3 10/17] hw/sd/sdcard: Assign SDCardStates enum values Philippe Mathieu-Daudé
2024-06-27 16:22 ` [PATCH v3 11/17] hw/sd/sdcard: Simplify sd_inactive_state handling Philippe Mathieu-Daudé
2024-06-27 16:22 ` [PATCH v3 12/17] hw/sd/sdcard: Restrict SWITCH_FUNCTION to sd_transfer_state (CMD6) Philippe Mathieu-Daudé
2024-06-27 16:22 ` [PATCH v3 13/17] hw/sd/sdcard: Add direct reference to SDProto in SDState Philippe Mathieu-Daudé
2024-06-27 16:22 ` [PATCH v3 14/17] hw/sd/sdcard: Extract sd_blk_len() helper Philippe Mathieu-Daudé
2024-06-27 16:22 ` [PATCH v3 15/17] tests/qtest: Disable npcm7xx_sdhci tests using hardcoded RCA Philippe Mathieu-Daudé
2024-06-27 16:47   ` Thomas Huth
2024-06-27 17:19     ` Philippe Mathieu-Daudé
2024-06-27 16:22 ` [PATCH v3 16/17] hw/sd/sdcard: Generate random RCA value Philippe Mathieu-Daudé
2024-06-27 16:22 ` [PATCH v3 17/17] hw/sd/sdcard: Introduce definitions for EXT_CSD register Philippe Mathieu-Daudé

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