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From: Juan Quintela <quintela@redhat.com>
To: Peter Xu <peterx@redhat.com>
Cc: Fabiano Rosas <farosas@suse.de>,
	 qemu-devel@nongnu.org,  Leonardo Bras <leobras@redhat.com>,
	 Elena Ufimtseva <elena.ufimtseva@oracle.com>
Subject: Re: [RFC PATCH v2 1/6] migration/multifd: Remove channels_ready semaphore
Date: Thu, 19 Oct 2023 20:28:05 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <87h6mm31sa.fsf@secure.mitica> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <ZTFPUUdJ5Y8/szaA@x1n> (Peter Xu's message of "Thu, 19 Oct 2023 11:46:25 -0400")

Peter Xu <peterx@redhat.com> wrote:
> On Thu, Oct 19, 2023 at 05:00:02PM +0200, Juan Quintela wrote:
>> Peter Xu <peterx@redhat.com> wrote:
>> > Fabiano,
>> >
>> > Sorry to look at this series late; I messed up my inbox after I reworked my
>> > arrangement methodology of emails. ;)
>> >
>> > On Thu, Oct 19, 2023 at 11:06:06AM +0200, Juan Quintela wrote:
>> >> Fabiano Rosas <farosas@suse.de> wrote:
>> >> > The channels_ready semaphore is a global variable not linked to any
>> >> > single multifd channel. Waiting on it only means that "some" channel
>> >> > has become ready to send data. Since we need to address the channels
>> >> > by index (multifd_send_state->params[i]), that information adds
>> >> > nothing of value.

>> And that is what we do here.
>> We didn't had this last line (not needed for making sure the channels
>> are ready here).
>> 
>> But needed to make sure that we are maintaining channels_ready exact.
>
> I didn't expect it to be exact, I think that's the major part of confusion.
> For example, I see this comment:
>
> static void *multifd_send_thread(void *opaque)
>        ...
>         } else {
>             qemu_mutex_unlock(&p->mutex);
>             /* sometimes there are spurious wakeups */
>         }

I put that there during development, and let it there just to be safe.
Years later I put an assert() there and did lots of migrations, never
hit it.

> So do we have spurious wakeup anywhere for either p->sem or channels_ready?
> They are related, because if we got spurious p->sem wakeups, then we'll
> boost channels_ready one more time too there.

I think that we can change that for g_assert_not_reached()

> I think two ways to go here:
>
>   - If we want to make them all exact: we'd figure out where are spurious
>     wake ups and we fix all of them.  Or,

This one.

>   - IMHO we can also make them not exact.  It means they can allow
>     spurious, and code can actually also work like that.  One example is
>     e.g. what happens if we get spurious wakeup in multifd_send_pages() for
>     channels_ready?  We simply do some cpu loops as long as we double check
>     with each channel again, we can even do better that if looping over N
>     channels and see all busy, "goto retry" and wait on the sem again.
>
> What do you think?

Make sure that it is exact O:-)

Later, Juan.



  reply	other threads:[~2023-10-19 18:29 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 30+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2023-10-12 14:06 [RFC PATCH v2 0/6] migration/multifd: Locking changes Fabiano Rosas
2023-10-12 14:06 ` [RFC PATCH v2 1/6] migration/multifd: Remove channels_ready semaphore Fabiano Rosas
2023-10-19  9:06   ` Juan Quintela
2023-10-19 14:35     ` Peter Xu
2023-10-19 15:00       ` Juan Quintela
2023-10-19 15:46         ` Peter Xu
2023-10-19 18:28           ` Juan Quintela [this message]
2023-10-19 18:50             ` Peter Xu
2023-10-20  7:56               ` Juan Quintela
2023-10-19 14:55     ` Fabiano Rosas
2023-10-19 15:18       ` Juan Quintela
2023-10-19 15:56         ` Fabiano Rosas
2023-10-19 18:41           ` Juan Quintela
2023-10-19 19:04             ` Peter Xu
2023-10-20  7:53               ` Juan Quintela
2023-10-20 12:48                 ` Fabiano Rosas
2023-10-22 20:17                   ` Peter Xu
2023-10-12 14:06 ` [RFC PATCH v2 2/6] migration/multifd: Stop checking p->quit in multifd_send_thread Fabiano Rosas
2023-10-19  9:08   ` Juan Quintela
2023-10-19 14:58     ` Fabiano Rosas
2023-10-19 15:19       ` Peter Xu
2023-10-19 15:19       ` Juan Quintela
2023-10-12 14:06 ` [RFC PATCH v2 3/6] migration/multifd: Decouple control flow from the SYNC packet Fabiano Rosas
2023-10-19 10:28   ` Juan Quintela
2023-10-19 15:31     ` Peter Xu
2023-10-12 14:06 ` [RFC PATCH v2 4/6] migration/multifd: Extract sem_done waiting into a function Fabiano Rosas
2023-10-12 14:06 ` [RFC PATCH v2 5/6] migration/multifd: Stop setting 'quit' outside of channels Fabiano Rosas
2023-10-19 10:35   ` Juan Quintela
2023-10-12 14:06 ` [RFC PATCH v2 6/6] migration/multifd: Bring back the 'ready' semaphore Fabiano Rosas
2023-10-19 10:43   ` Juan Quintela

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