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From: Fabiano Rosas <farosas@suse.de>
To: Peter Xu <peterx@redhat.com>
Cc: qemu-devel@nongnu.org, berrange@redhat.com, armbru@redhat.com,
	Juan Quintela <quintela@redhat.com>,
	Leonardo Bras <leobras@redhat.com>,
	Claudio Fontana <cfontana@suse.de>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v2 21/29] migration/multifd: Add pages to the receiving side
Date: Tue, 31 Oct 2023 20:18:06 -0300	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <87il6mcrf5.fsf@suse.de> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <ZUF7VG+CWvuOEbqD@x1n>

Peter Xu <peterx@redhat.com> writes:

> On Mon, Oct 23, 2023 at 05:36:00PM -0300, Fabiano Rosas wrote:
>> Currently multifd does not need to have knowledge of pages on the
>> receiving side because all the information needed is within the
>> packets that come in the stream.
>> 
>> We're about to add support to fixed-ram migration, which cannot use
>> packets because it expects the ramblock section in the migration file
>> to contain only the guest pages data.
>> 
>> Add a pointer to MultiFDPages in the multifd_recv_state and use the
>> pages similarly to what we already do on the sending side. The pages
>> are used to transfer data between the ram migration code in the main
>> migration thread and the multifd receiving threads.
>> 
>> Signed-off-by: Fabiano Rosas <farosas@suse.de>
>
> If it'll be new code to maintain anyway, I think we don't necessarily
> always use multifd structs, right?
>

For the sending side, unrelated to this series, I'm experimenting with
defining a generic structure to be passed into multifd:

struct MultiFDData_t {
    void *opaque;
    size_t size;
    bool ready;
    void (*cleanup_fn)(void *);
};

The client code (ram.c) would use the opaque field to put whatever it
wants in it. Maybe we could have a similar concept on the receiving
side?

Here's a PoC I'm writing, if you're interested:

https://github.com/farosas/qemu/commits/multifd-packet-cleanups

(I'm delaying sending this to the list because we already have a
reasonable backlog of features and refactorings to merge.)

> Rather than introducing MultiFDPages_t into recv side, can we allow pages
> to be distributed in chunks of (ramblock, start_offset, end_offset) tuples?
> That'll be much more efficient than per-page.  We don't need page granule
> here on recv side, we want to load chunks of mem fast.
>
> We don't even need page granule on sender side, but since only myself cared
> about perf.. and obviously the plan is to even drop auto-pause, then VM can
> be running there, so sender must do that per-page for now.  But now on recv
> side VM must be stopped before all ram loaded, so there's no such problem.
> And since we'll introduce new code anyway, IMHO we can decide how to do
> that even if we want to reuse multifd.
>
> Main thread can assign these (ramblock, start_offset, end_offset) jobs to
> recv threads.  If ramblock is too small (e.g. 1M), assign it anyway to one
> thread.  If ramblock is >512MB, cut it into slices and feed them to multifd
> threads one by one.  All the rest can be the same.
>
> Would that be better?  I would expect measurable loading speed difference
> with much larger chunks and with that range-based tuples.

I need to check how that would interact with the existing recv_thread
code. Hopefully there's nothing there preventing us from using a
different data structure.



  reply	other threads:[~2023-10-31 23:18 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 128+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2023-10-23 20:35 [PATCH v2 00/29] migration: File based migration with multifd and fixed-ram Fabiano Rosas
2023-10-23 20:35 ` [PATCH v2 01/29] tests/qtest: migration events Fabiano Rosas
2023-10-25  9:44   ` Thomas Huth
2023-10-25 10:14   ` Daniel P. Berrangé
2023-10-25 13:21   ` Fabiano Rosas
2023-10-25 13:33     ` Steven Sistare
2023-10-23 20:35 ` [PATCH v2 02/29] tests/qtest: Move QTestMigrationState to libqtest Fabiano Rosas
2023-10-25 10:17   ` Daniel P. Berrangé
2023-10-25 13:19     ` Fabiano Rosas
2023-10-23 20:35 ` [PATCH v2 03/29] tests/qtest: Allow waiting for migration events Fabiano Rosas
2023-10-23 20:35 ` [PATCH v2 04/29] migration: Return the saved state from global_state_store Fabiano Rosas
2023-10-25 10:19   ` Daniel P. Berrangé
2023-10-23 20:35 ` [PATCH v2 05/29] migration: Introduce global_state_store_once Fabiano Rosas
2023-10-23 20:35 ` [PATCH v2 06/29] migration: Add auto-pause capability Fabiano Rosas
2023-10-24  5:25   ` Markus Armbruster
2023-10-24 18:12     ` Fabiano Rosas
2023-10-25  5:33       ` Markus Armbruster
2023-10-25  8:48   ` Daniel P. Berrangé
2023-10-25 13:57     ` Fabiano Rosas
2023-10-25 14:20       ` Daniel P. Berrangé
2023-10-25 14:58         ` Peter Xu
2023-10-25 15:25           ` Daniel P. Berrangé
2023-10-25 15:36             ` Peter Xu
2023-10-25 15:40               ` Daniel P. Berrangé
2023-10-25 17:20                 ` Peter Xu
2023-10-25 17:31                   ` Daniel P. Berrangé
2023-10-25 19:28                     ` Peter Xu
2023-10-23 20:35 ` [PATCH v2 07/29] migration: Run "file:" migration with a stopped VM Fabiano Rosas
2023-10-23 20:35 ` [PATCH v2 08/29] tests/qtest: File migration auto-pause tests Fabiano Rosas
2023-10-23 20:35 ` [PATCH v2 09/29] io: add and implement QIO_CHANNEL_FEATURE_SEEKABLE for channel file Fabiano Rosas
2023-10-23 20:35 ` [PATCH v2 10/29] io: Add generic pwritev/preadv interface Fabiano Rosas
2023-10-24  8:18   ` Daniel P. Berrangé
2023-10-24 19:06     ` Fabiano Rosas
2023-10-23 20:35 ` [PATCH v2 11/29] io: implement io_pwritev/preadv for QIOChannelFile Fabiano Rosas
2023-10-23 20:35 ` [PATCH v2 12/29] migration/qemu-file: add utility methods for working with seekable channels Fabiano Rosas
2023-10-25 10:22   ` Daniel P. Berrangé
2023-10-23 20:35 ` [PATCH v2 13/29] migration: fixed-ram: Add URI compatibility check Fabiano Rosas
2023-10-25 10:27   ` Daniel P. Berrangé
2023-10-31 16:06   ` Peter Xu
2023-10-23 20:35 ` [PATCH v2 14/29] migration/ram: Introduce 'fixed-ram' migration capability Fabiano Rosas
2023-10-24  5:33   ` Markus Armbruster
2023-10-24 18:35     ` Fabiano Rosas
2023-10-25  6:18       ` Markus Armbruster
2023-10-23 20:35 ` [PATCH v2 15/29] migration/ram: Add support for 'fixed-ram' outgoing migration Fabiano Rosas
2023-10-25  9:39   ` Daniel P. Berrangé
2023-10-25 14:03     ` Fabiano Rosas
2023-11-01 15:23     ` Peter Xu
2023-11-01 15:52       ` Daniel P. Berrangé
2023-11-01 16:24         ` Peter Xu
2023-11-01 16:37           ` Daniel P. Berrangé
2023-11-01 17:30             ` Peter Xu
2023-10-31 16:52   ` Peter Xu
2023-10-31 17:33     ` Fabiano Rosas
2023-10-31 17:59       ` Peter Xu
2023-10-23 20:35 ` [PATCH v2 16/29] migration/ram: Add support for 'fixed-ram' migration restore Fabiano Rosas
2023-10-25  9:43   ` Daniel P. Berrangé
2023-10-25 14:07     ` Fabiano Rosas
2023-10-31 19:03       ` Peter Xu
2023-11-01  9:26         ` Daniel P. Berrangé
2023-11-01 14:21           ` Peter Xu
2023-11-01 14:28             ` Daniel P. Berrangé
2023-11-01 15:00               ` Peter Xu
2023-11-06 13:18                 ` Fabiano Rosas
2023-11-06 21:00                   ` Peter Xu
2023-11-07  9:02                     ` Daniel P. Berrangé
2023-10-31 19:09   ` Peter Xu
2023-10-31 20:00     ` Fabiano Rosas
2023-10-23 20:35 ` [PATCH v2 17/29] tests/qtest: migration-test: Add tests for fixed-ram file-based migration Fabiano Rosas
2023-10-23 20:35 ` [PATCH v2 18/29] migration/multifd: Allow multifd without packets Fabiano Rosas
2023-10-23 20:35 ` [PATCH v2 19/29] migration/multifd: Add outgoing QIOChannelFile support Fabiano Rosas
2023-10-25  9:52   ` Daniel P. Berrangé
2023-10-25 14:12     ` Fabiano Rosas
2023-10-25 14:23       ` Daniel P. Berrangé
2023-10-25 15:00         ` Fabiano Rosas
2023-10-25 15:26           ` Daniel P. Berrangé
2023-10-31 20:11   ` Peter Xu
2023-10-23 20:35 ` [PATCH v2 20/29] migration/multifd: Add incoming " Fabiano Rosas
2023-10-25 10:29   ` Daniel P. Berrangé
2023-10-25 14:18     ` Fabiano Rosas
2023-10-31 21:28   ` Peter Xu
2023-10-23 20:36 ` [PATCH v2 21/29] migration/multifd: Add pages to the receiving side Fabiano Rosas
2023-10-31 22:10   ` Peter Xu
2023-10-31 23:18     ` Fabiano Rosas [this message]
2023-11-01 15:55       ` Peter Xu
2023-11-01 17:20         ` Fabiano Rosas
2023-11-01 17:35           ` Peter Xu
2023-11-01 18:14             ` Fabiano Rosas
2023-10-23 20:36 ` [PATCH v2 22/29] io: Add a pwritev/preadv version that takes a discontiguous iovec Fabiano Rosas
2023-10-24  8:50   ` Daniel P. Berrangé
2023-10-23 20:36 ` [PATCH v2 23/29] migration/ram: Add a wrapper for fixed-ram shadow bitmap Fabiano Rosas
2023-11-01 14:29   ` Peter Xu
2023-10-23 20:36 ` [PATCH v2 24/29] migration/ram: Ignore multifd flush when doing fixed-ram migration Fabiano Rosas
2023-10-25  9:09   ` Daniel P. Berrangé
2023-10-23 20:36 ` [PATCH v2 25/29] migration/multifd: Support outgoing fixed-ram stream format Fabiano Rosas
2023-10-25  9:23   ` Daniel P. Berrangé
2023-10-25 14:21     ` Fabiano Rosas
2023-10-23 20:36 ` [PATCH v2 26/29] migration/multifd: Support incoming " Fabiano Rosas
2023-10-23 20:36 ` [PATCH v2 27/29] tests/qtest: Add a multifd + fixed-ram migration test Fabiano Rosas
2023-10-23 20:36 ` [PATCH v2 28/29] migration: Add direct-io parameter Fabiano Rosas
2023-10-24  5:41   ` Markus Armbruster
2023-10-24 19:32     ` Fabiano Rosas
2023-10-25  6:23       ` Markus Armbruster
2023-10-25  8:44       ` Daniel P. Berrangé
2023-10-25 14:32         ` Fabiano Rosas
2023-10-25 14:43           ` Daniel P. Berrangé
2023-10-25 17:30             ` Fabiano Rosas
2023-10-25 17:45               ` Daniel P. Berrangé
2023-10-25 18:10                 ` Fabiano Rosas
2023-10-30 22:51             ` Fabiano Rosas
2023-10-31  9:03               ` Daniel P. Berrangé
2023-10-31 13:05                 ` Fabiano Rosas
2023-10-31 13:45                   ` Daniel P. Berrangé
2023-10-31 14:33                     ` Fabiano Rosas
2023-10-31 15:22                       ` Daniel P. Berrangé
2023-10-31 15:52                         ` Fabiano Rosas
2023-10-31 15:58                           ` Daniel P. Berrangé
2023-10-31 19:05                             ` Fabiano Rosas
2023-11-01  9:30                               ` Daniel P. Berrangé
2023-11-01 12:16                                 ` Fabiano Rosas
2023-11-01 12:23                                   ` Daniel P. Berrangé
2023-11-01 12:30                                     ` Fabiano Rosas
2023-10-24  8:33   ` Daniel P. Berrangé
2023-10-24 19:06     ` Fabiano Rosas
2023-10-25  9:07   ` Daniel P. Berrangé
2023-10-25 14:48     ` Fabiano Rosas
2023-10-25 15:22       ` Daniel P. Berrangé
2023-10-23 20:36 ` [PATCH v2 29/29] tests/qtest: Add a test for migration with direct-io and multifd Fabiano Rosas
2023-10-25  9:25   ` Daniel P. Berrangé

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