From: "Alex Bennée" <alex.bennee@linaro.org>
To: Thomas Huth <thuth@redhat.com>
Cc: Markus Armbruster <armbru@redhat.com>,
Martin Schrodt <martin@schrodt.org>,
qemu-devel@nongnu.org, Gerd Hoffmann <kraxel@redhat.com>,
Max Reitz <mreitz@redhat.com>
Subject: Re: [Qemu-devel] Drop support for 32bit hosts in qemu?
Date: Wed, 27 Jun 2018 12:08:31 +0100 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <87in64wkpc.fsf@linaro.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <aa9afd06-19da-1f48-c20c-2f1eff2e861a@redhat.com>
Thomas Huth <thuth@redhat.com> writes:
> On 27.06.2018 09:57, Markus Armbruster wrote:
>> Thomas Huth <thuth@redhat.com> writes:
>>
>>> On 27.06.2018 08:51, Gerd Hoffmann wrote:
>> [...]
>>>> Drop support for 32bit hosts in qemu?
>>>
>>> I guess the only way to answer that question reliably is to send a patch
>>> to mark 32-bit hosts as deprecated...
>>>
>>> Anyway, you still have got to fix that problem with -m32 now somehow
>>> since we certainly can not drop 32-bit immediately.
>>
>> We certainly can if we want to.
>>
>> Our formal deprecation policy codifies our compromise between the need
>> to evolve QEMU and the need of its users for stable external interfaces.
>>
>> "Compiles on host X" is also a need, but it's a different one.
>> Evidence: "Supported build platforms" has its own appendix, separate
>> from "Deprecated features". It's mum on 32-bit hosts.
>
> Theoretically I'd agree, but actually it's more than that: If we drop
> support for 32-bit hosts, we could also drop the qemu-system-i386,
> qemu-system-ppc and qemu-system-arm targets, since qemu-system-x86_64,
> qemu-system-ppc64 and qemu-system-aarch64 are a clear superset of
> these.
Hmm not quite - not building on HOST != not wanting to run GUEST
While I'm unlikely to build on a 32 bit ARM system I run 32 bit guests
all the time.
> But that would also mean a change of the user interface, since the name
> of the executable changes, and at least for ppc, there are also subtle
> differences (different default machine type, different default CPU types).
>
> Thomas
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Alex Bennée
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2018-06-27 11:08 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 37+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2018-06-25 13:12 [Qemu-devel] [PULL 0/6] Audio 20180625 patches Gerd Hoffmann
2018-06-25 13:12 ` [Qemu-devel] [PULL 1/6] audio/hda: create millisecond timers that handle IO Gerd Hoffmann
2018-06-26 19:55 ` Max Reitz
2018-06-27 6:51 ` Gerd Hoffmann
2018-06-27 7:24 ` Thomas Huth
2018-06-27 7:57 ` [Qemu-devel] Drop support for 32bit hosts in qemu? (was: [PULL 1/6] audio/hda: create millisecond timers that handle IO) Markus Armbruster
2018-06-27 8:09 ` [Qemu-devel] Drop support for 32bit hosts in qemu? Thomas Huth
2018-06-27 8:56 ` Gerd Hoffmann
2018-06-27 11:08 ` Alex Bennée [this message]
2018-06-27 11:09 ` Thomas Huth
2018-06-27 8:15 ` [Qemu-devel] Drop support for 32bit hosts in qemu? (was: [PULL 1/6] audio/hda: create millisecond timers that handle IO) BALATON Zoltan
2018-06-27 8:52 ` Gerd Hoffmann
2018-06-27 9:09 ` Thomas Huth
2018-06-27 13:33 ` Philippe Mathieu-Daudé
2018-06-27 15:41 ` Laurent Vivier
2018-06-27 18:44 ` Dr. David Alan Gilbert
2018-06-27 19:55 ` Laurent Vivier
2018-06-27 10:49 ` Peter Maydell
2018-06-27 11:09 ` Dr. David Alan Gilbert
2018-06-27 13:08 ` Alex Bennée
2018-06-27 13:09 ` Alex Bennée
2018-06-27 11:09 ` Daniel P. Berrangé
2018-06-27 13:03 ` Alex Bennée
2018-06-27 13:38 ` Philippe Mathieu-Daudé
2018-06-27 13:02 ` [Qemu-devel] Drop support for 32bit hosts in qemu? Juan Quintela
2018-06-27 13:11 ` Daniel P. Berrangé
2018-06-27 11:13 ` [Qemu-devel] [PULL 1/6] audio/hda: create millisecond timers that handle IO Gerd Hoffmann
2018-06-27 13:15 ` Paolo Bonzini
2018-06-27 12:21 ` Eric Blake
2018-06-29 8:19 ` Peter Maydell
2018-06-29 15:11 ` Eric Blake
2018-06-25 13:12 ` [Qemu-devel] [PULL 2/6] audio/hda: turn some dprintfs into trace points Gerd Hoffmann
2018-06-25 13:12 ` [Qemu-devel] [PULL 3/6] audio/hda: tweak timer adjust logic Gerd Hoffmann
2018-06-25 13:12 ` [Qemu-devel] [PULL 4/6] audio/hda: detect output buffer overruns Gerd Hoffmann
2018-06-25 13:12 ` [Qemu-devel] [PULL 5/6] audio/hda: enable new timer code by default Gerd Hoffmann
2018-06-25 13:12 ` [Qemu-devel] [PULL 6/6] audio: Convert use of atoi to qemu_strtoi Gerd Hoffmann
2018-06-25 15:37 ` [Qemu-devel] [PULL 0/6] Audio 20180625 patches Peter Maydell
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