From: Juan Quintela <quintela@redhat.com>
To: Markus Armbruster <armbru@redhat.com>
Cc: Eric Blake <eblake@redhat.com>,
"Dr. David Alan Gilbert" <dgilbert@redhat.com>,
lvivier@redhat.com, qemu-devel@nongnu.org, peterx@redhat.com
Subject: Re: [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 1/3] migration: Create block capabilities for shared and enable
Date: Mon, 15 May 2017 18:06:40 +0200 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <87inl2drzj.fsf@secure.mitica> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <87r2zqqged.fsf@dusky.pond.sub.org> (Markus Armbruster's message of "Mon, 15 May 2017 17:38:34 +0200")
Markus Armbruster <armbru@redhat.com> wrote:
> Eric Blake <eblake@redhat.com> writes:
>
>> On 05/15/2017 04:46 AM, Dr. David Alan Gilbert wrote:
>>> * Juan Quintela (quintela@redhat.com) wrote:
>>>> Eric Blake <eblake@redhat.com> wrote:
>>>>> On 05/11/2017 11:32 AM, Juan Quintela wrote:
>>>>>> Those two capabilities were added through the command line. Notice that
>>>>>> we just created them. This is just the boilerplate.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Signed-off-by: Juan Quintela <quintela@redhat.com>
>>>>>> Reviewed-by: Eric Blake <eblake@redhat.com>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> --
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Make migrate_set_block_* take a boolean argument.
>>>>>
>>>>> Question - do we support the orthogonal selection of all 4 combinations
>>>>> under HMP 'migrate' (no argument, -b alone, -i alone, -b and -i
>>>>> together), or are there only 3 actual states? If the latter, should we
>>>>> represent this as a single enum-valued property, rather than as two
>>>>> independent boolean properties?
>>>>
>>>> { 'enum': 'MigrationCapability',
>>>> 'data': ['xbzrle', 'rdma-pin-all', 'auto-converge', 'zero-blocks',
>>>> 'compress', 'events', 'postcopy-ram', 'x-colo', 'release-ram'] }
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> My understanding is that we can only have boolean capabilities here.
>>>> Or, how could we put a non-boolean capability?
>>
>> If we want a non-boolean, then we make it a migration parameter rather
>> than a migration capability. There may be other advantages to using
>> MigrationParameter instead of MigrationCapability (such as making it
>> easier to figure out whether the parameter settings are persistent or
>> apply per-migration).
>
> What makes a migration knob a MigrationCapability rather than a
> MigrationParameter? Type bool, or is there more to it?
I didn't started this, but *my* undersanding:
Migration capability: we have to set this up before migration starts.
It is like a property that we can't change later. We can't add a
compression thread in the middle of migration (notice that we "could"
but current code can't).
So, block enabled migration is a capability.
Block shared on the other hand is weird. *My* understading of the code
is that we have a qcow2 overlay on top of the base image, and:
- without shared: we migrate all the block device
- with shared: we migrate only the top overlay
So, thisk could be a parameter of block migration. If anyone understand
better than me, please stand up.
>>> Lets keep this simple and stick with the booleans.
>>>
>>> Dave
>>>
>>>> There are three states as far as I can see.
>
> Begs the question how the fourth state behaves. Documentation is of no
> help:
>
> diff --git a/qapi-schema.json b/qapi-schema.json
> index 5728b7f..109852e 100644
> --- a/qapi-schema.json
> +++ b/qapi-schema.json
> @@ -894,11 +894,16 @@
> # @release-ram: if enabled, qemu will free the migrated ram pages on the source
> # during postcopy-ram migration. (since 2.9)
> #
> +# @block-enabled: enable block migration (Since 2.10)
> +#
> +# @block-shared: enable block shared migration (Since 2.10)
> +#
> # Since: 1.2
> ##
>
> Please explain all four states clearly there.
Is the previous explanation enough?
>> I'll leave it up to you as maintainers which way you prefer, I'm just
>> offering the potential design tradeoffs for simplicity of booleans (but
>> complexity in an unused state) vs. simplicity of design (but complexity
>> in code).
>
> For what it's worth, I dislike entangled booleans.
Some here, but except if we put shared as a migration parameter, I don't
know what to do here.
{ 'enum': 'MigrationParameter',
'data': ['compress-level', 'compress-threads', 'decompress-threads',
'cpu-throttle-initial', 'cpu-throttle-increment',
'tls-creds', 'tls-hostname', 'max-bandwidth',
'downtime-limit', 'x-checkpoint-delay' ] }
I don't see either how to define that block_shared will be a boolean parameter.
Later, Juan.
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2017-05-15 16:06 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 33+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2017-05-11 16:32 [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v2 0/3] Remove old MigrationParams Juan Quintela
2017-05-11 16:32 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 1/3] migration: Create block capabilities for shared and enable Juan Quintela
2017-05-12 19:52 ` Eric Blake
2017-05-15 9:41 ` Juan Quintela
2017-05-15 9:46 ` Dr. David Alan Gilbert
2017-05-15 14:24 ` Eric Blake
2017-05-15 15:38 ` Markus Armbruster
2017-05-15 16:06 ` Juan Quintela [this message]
2017-05-16 6:49 ` Markus Armbruster
2017-05-15 15:56 ` Juan Quintela
2017-05-11 16:32 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 2/3] migration: Remove use of old MigrationParams Juan Quintela
2017-05-12 3:40 ` Peter Xu
2017-05-12 10:55 ` Juan Quintela
2017-05-12 19:59 ` Eric Blake
2017-05-15 9:48 ` Juan Quintela
2017-05-15 10:43 ` Dr. David Alan Gilbert
2017-05-15 14:28 ` Eric Blake
2017-05-15 15:59 ` Juan Quintela
2017-05-15 16:06 ` Markus Armbruster
2017-05-15 16:33 ` Juan Quintela
2017-05-15 16:38 ` Dr. David Alan Gilbert
2017-05-15 16:56 ` Juan Quintela
2017-05-15 17:27 ` Dr. David Alan Gilbert
2017-05-15 17:35 ` Juan Quintela
2017-05-15 17:38 ` Dr. David Alan Gilbert
2017-05-15 17:45 ` Juan Quintela
2017-05-15 18:32 ` Dr. David Alan Gilbert
2017-05-16 7:25 ` Markus Armbruster
2017-05-16 8:00 ` Juan Quintela
2017-05-15 10:05 ` Peter Xu
2017-05-11 16:32 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 3/3] migration: Remove " Juan Quintela
2017-05-12 2:01 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v2 0/3] " Hailiang Zhang
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2017-04-25 10:30 [Qemu-devel] [PATCH " Juan Quintela
2017-04-25 10:30 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 1/3] migration: Create block capabilities for shared and enable Juan Quintela
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