From: Vitaly Kuznetsov <vkuznets@redhat.com>
To: Igor Mammedov <imammedo@redhat.com>
Cc: Paolo Bonzini <pbonzini@redhat.com>,
drjones@redhat.com, Marcelo Tosatti <mtosatti@redhat.com>,
qemu-devel@nongnu.org, Eduardo Habkost <ehabkost@redhat.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v4 16/21] i386: track explicit 'hv-*' features enablement/disablement
Date: Fri, 12 Feb 2021 16:19:24 +0100 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <87k0rdl3er.fsf@vitty.brq.redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20210212151259.3db7406f@redhat.com>
Igor Mammedov <imammedo@redhat.com> writes:
> On Fri, 12 Feb 2021 09:45:52 +0100
> Vitaly Kuznetsov <vkuznets@redhat.com> wrote:
>
>> Igor Mammedov <imammedo@redhat.com> writes:
>>
>> > On Wed, 10 Feb 2021 17:40:28 +0100
>> > Vitaly Kuznetsov <vkuznets@redhat.com> wrote:
>> >
>> >> Sometimes we'd like to know which features were explicitly enabled and which
>> >> were explicitly disabled on the command line. E.g. it seems logical to handle
>> >> 'hv_passthrough,hv_feature=off' as "enable everything supported by the host
>> >> except for hv_feature" but this doesn't seem to be possible with the current
>> >> 'hyperv_features' bit array. Introduce 'hv_features_on'/'hv_features_off'
>> >> add-ons and track explicit enablement/disablement there.
>> >>
>> >> Note, it doesn't seem to be possible to fill 'hyperv_features' array during
>> >> CPU creation time when 'hv-passthrough' is specified and we're running on
>> >> an older kernel without KVM_CAP_SYS_HYPERV_CPUID support. To get the list
>> >> of the supported Hyper-V features we need to actually create KVM VCPU and
>> >> this happens much later.
>> >
>> > seems to me that we are returning back to +-feat parsing, this time only for
>> > hyperv.
>> > I'm not sure I like it back, especially considering we are going to
>> > drop "-feat" priority for x86.
>> >
>> > now about impossible, see arm/kvm/virt, they create a 'sample' VCPU at KVM
>> > init time to probe for some CPU features in advance. You can use similar
>> > approach to prepare value for hyperv_features.
>> >
>>
>> KVM_CAP_SYS_HYPERV_CPUID is supported since 5.11 and eventually it'll
>> make it to all kernels we care about so I'd really like to avoid any
>> 'sample' CPUs for the time being. On/off parsing looks like a much
>> lesser evil.
> When minimum supported by QEMU kernel version gets there, you can remove
> scratch CPU in QEMU (if hyperv will remain its sole user).
>
> writing your own property parser like in this series, is possible too
> but it adds extra fields to track state and hard to follow logic.
> On top it adds a lot of churn by switching hv_ features to dynamic
> properties, which is not necessary if scratch CPU approach is used.
>
> Please try reusing scratch CPU approach, see
> kvm_arm_get_host_cpu_features()
> for an example. You will very likely end up with simpler series,
> compared to reinventing wheel.
Even if I do that (and I serioulsy doubt it's going to be easier than
just adding two 'u64's, kvm_arm_get_host_cpu_features() alone is 200
lines long) this is not going to give us what we need to distinguish
between
'hv-passthrough,hv-evmcs'
and
'hv-passthrough'
when 'hv-evmcs' *is* supported by the host. When guest CPU lacks VMX we
don't want to enable it unless it was requested explicitly (former but
not the later).
Moreover, instead of just adding two 'u64's we're now doing an ioctl
which can fail, be subject to limits,... Creating and destroying a CPU
is also slow. Sorry, I hardly see how this is better, maybe just from
'code purity' point of view.
--
Vitaly
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2021-02-12 15:23 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 58+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2021-02-10 16:40 [PATCH v4 00/19] i386: KVM: expand Hyper-V features early and provide simple 'hv-default=on' option Vitaly Kuznetsov
2021-02-10 16:40 ` [PATCH v4 01/21] i386: keep hyperv_vendor string up-to-date Vitaly Kuznetsov
2021-02-10 16:40 ` [PATCH v4 02/21] i386: invert hyperv_spinlock_attempts setting logic with hv_passthrough Vitaly Kuznetsov
2021-02-10 16:40 ` [PATCH v4 03/21] i386: always fill Hyper-V CPUID feature leaves from X86CPU data Vitaly Kuznetsov
2021-02-10 16:40 ` [PATCH v4 04/21] i386: stop using env->features[] for filling Hyper-V CPUIDs Vitaly Kuznetsov
2021-02-10 16:40 ` [PATCH v4 05/21] i386: introduce hyperv_feature_supported() Vitaly Kuznetsov
2021-02-10 16:40 ` [PATCH v4 06/21] i386: introduce hv_cpuid_get_host() Vitaly Kuznetsov
2021-02-10 16:40 ` [PATCH v4 07/21] i386: drop FEAT_HYPERV feature leaves Vitaly Kuznetsov
2021-02-10 16:40 ` [PATCH v4 08/21] i386: introduce hv_cpuid_cache Vitaly Kuznetsov
2021-02-10 16:40 ` [PATCH v4 09/21] i386: split hyperv_handle_properties() into hyperv_expand_features()/hyperv_fill_cpuids() Vitaly Kuznetsov
2021-02-10 16:40 ` [PATCH v4 10/21] i386: move eVMCS enablement to hyperv_init_vcpu() Vitaly Kuznetsov
2021-02-10 16:40 ` [PATCH v4 11/21] i386: switch hyperv_expand_features() to using error_setg() Vitaly Kuznetsov
2021-02-10 16:40 ` [PATCH v4 12/21] i386: adjust the expected KVM_GET_SUPPORTED_HV_CPUID array size Vitaly Kuznetsov
2021-02-10 16:40 ` [PATCH v4 13/21] i386: prefer system KVM_GET_SUPPORTED_HV_CPUID ioctl over vCPU's one Vitaly Kuznetsov
2021-02-10 16:40 ` [PATCH v4 14/21] i386: use global kvm_state in hyperv_enabled() check Vitaly Kuznetsov
2021-02-10 16:40 ` [PATCH v4 15/21] i386: expand Hyper-V features during CPU feature expansion time Vitaly Kuznetsov
2021-02-10 16:40 ` [PATCH v4 16/21] i386: track explicit 'hv-*' features enablement/disablement Vitaly Kuznetsov
2021-02-11 17:35 ` Igor Mammedov
2021-02-12 8:45 ` Vitaly Kuznetsov
2021-02-12 14:12 ` Igor Mammedov
2021-02-12 15:19 ` Vitaly Kuznetsov [this message]
2021-02-12 15:26 ` Vitaly Kuznetsov
2021-02-12 16:05 ` Igor Mammedov
2021-02-15 8:56 ` Vitaly Kuznetsov
2021-02-15 15:55 ` Igor Mammedov
2021-02-15 17:05 ` Igor Mammedov
2021-02-15 18:12 ` Vitaly Kuznetsov
2021-02-12 16:01 ` Igor Mammedov
2021-02-15 8:53 ` Vitaly Kuznetsov
2021-02-15 10:48 ` Andrew Jones
2021-02-15 17:01 ` Igor Mammedov
2021-02-15 18:11 ` Vitaly Kuznetsov
2021-02-22 10:20 ` Vitaly Kuznetsov
2021-02-23 15:19 ` Igor Mammedov
2021-02-23 15:46 ` Vitaly Kuznetsov
2021-02-23 17:48 ` Igor Mammedov
2021-02-23 18:08 ` Vitaly Kuznetsov
2021-02-24 16:06 ` Igor Mammedov
2021-02-24 17:00 ` Vitaly Kuznetsov
2021-03-01 15:32 ` Igor Mammedov
2021-03-01 16:22 ` Vitaly Kuznetsov
2021-02-10 16:40 ` [PATCH v4 17/21] i386: support 'hv-passthrough, hv-feature=off' on the command line Vitaly Kuznetsov
2021-02-11 17:14 ` Igor Mammedov
2021-02-12 8:49 ` Vitaly Kuznetsov
2021-02-12 9:29 ` David Edmondson
2021-02-12 13:52 ` Igor Mammedov
2021-02-10 16:40 ` [PATCH v4 18/21] i386: be more picky about implicit 'hv-evmcs' enablement Vitaly Kuznetsov
2021-02-10 16:40 ` [PATCH v4 19/21] i386: introduce kvm_hv_evmcs_available() Vitaly Kuznetsov
2021-02-10 16:40 ` [PATCH v4 20/21] i386: provide simple 'hv-default=on' option Vitaly Kuznetsov
2021-02-11 17:23 ` Igor Mammedov
2021-02-12 8:52 ` Vitaly Kuznetsov
2021-02-10 16:40 ` [PATCH v4 21/21] qtest/hyperv: Introduce a simple hyper-v test Vitaly Kuznetsov
2021-02-10 16:56 ` [PATCH v4 00/19] i386: KVM: expand Hyper-V features early and provide simple 'hv-default=on' option Daniel P. Berrangé
2021-02-10 17:46 ` Eduardo Habkost
2021-02-11 8:30 ` Vitaly Kuznetsov
2021-02-11 9:14 ` Daniel P. Berrangé
2021-02-11 9:34 ` Vitaly Kuznetsov
2021-02-11 10:14 ` Daniel P. Berrangé
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