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From: Anthony Liguori <anthony@codemonkey.ws>
To: Stefan Berger <stefanb@linux.vnet.ibm.com>,
	Joel Schopp <jschopp@linux.vnet.ibm.com>
Cc: "Michael S. Tsirkin" <mst@redhat.com>,
	Stefan Hajnoczi <stefanha@gmail.com>,
	Kent E Yoder <yoder1@us.ibm.com>,
	Corey Bryant <coreyb@linux.vnet.ibm.com>,
	Michael Roth <mdroth@linux.vnet.ibm.com>,
	qemu-devel <qemu-devel@nongnu.org>,
	Kenneth Goldman <kgoldman@us.ibm.com>
Subject: Re: [Qemu-devel] vNVRAM / blobstore design
Date: Wed, 27 Mar 2013 12:14:00 -0500	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <87k3os7okn.fsf@codemonkey.ws> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <51532268.40102@linux.vnet.ibm.com>

Stefan Berger <stefanb@linux.vnet.ibm.com> writes:

> On 03/27/2013 12:12 PM, Joel Schopp wrote:
>>
>>> Yea it's not hard to invent a random format each time we write something
>>> on disk.
>>>
>>> But I think ASN.1 BER will be useful to have in qemu anyway. E.g. it's a
>>> better format for migration than what we have now.  Once we have it in
>>> tree re-using it seems cleaner than maintaining some per-TPM thing.
>>>
>>
>> The asn.1 patches that have been posted seem to be getting a cool 
>> reception.  If people think asn.1 is the way to go some more review 
>> comments, acked-bys, reviewed-bys, or signed-off-bys would make that 
>> more likely to happen.  The patches have gone through several rounds 
>> of review and come with a decent set of tests but still haven't been 
>> merged.  I think they are very mergable.
>
> Let me post another version that makes all the tests in 
> test-visitor-serialize pass, including the ones using visit_optional.

What I struggle with is that we're calling this a "blobstore".  Using
BER to store "blobs" seems kind of pointless especially when we're
talking about exactly three blobs.

I suspect real hardware does something like, flash is N bytes, blob 1 is
a max of X bytes, blob 2 is a max of Y bytes, and blob 3 is (N - X - Y)
bytes.

Do we really need to do anything more than that?

Regards,

Anthony Liguori

>
> I also think they are mergeable, but we should discuss a few aspects 
> around it. There are standards behind this that we may or may not need 
> to implement as such. I am thinking of CER encoding for example that 
> imposes restrictions on the size of primitive elements to be less than 
> 1000 bytes (section 9.2) and need constructed encoding when bigger. We 
> may be able to change this limit to PAGE_SIZE * n with n = ?. There may 
> be other aspects.
>
> Stefan

  reply	other threads:[~2013-03-27 17:14 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 31+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2013-03-25 21:39 [Qemu-devel] vNVRAM / blobstore design Stefan Berger
2013-03-25 22:05 ` Anthony Liguori
2013-03-25 22:20   ` Stefan Berger
2013-03-27 15:17     ` Corey Bryant
2013-03-27 15:20       ` Corey Bryant
2013-03-27 15:30         ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2013-03-27 16:07           ` mdroth
2013-03-27 15:43         ` Kenneth Goldman
2013-03-27 15:53           ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2013-03-27 16:12             ` Joel Schopp
2013-03-27 16:46               ` Stefan Berger
2013-03-27 17:14                 ` Anthony Liguori [this message]
2013-03-27 17:27                   ` Stefan Berger
2013-03-27 18:27                     ` Anthony Liguori
2013-03-27 19:12                       ` Stefan Berger
2013-03-28 16:11                         ` Stefan Berger
2013-03-28 16:31                           ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2013-03-28 17:02                             ` Stefan Berger
2013-03-28 17:27                           ` Anthony Liguori
2013-03-28 17:36                             ` Stefan Berger
2013-03-28 17:39                             ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2013-03-29 13:55                               ` Stefan Berger
2013-03-29 15:12                                 ` Anthony Liguori
2013-03-29 17:33                           ` Kenneth Goldman
2013-03-31  8:17                             ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2013-03-31 20:48                               ` Kenneth Goldman
2013-04-02 12:06                                 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2013-04-02 13:24                                   ` Kenneth Goldman
2013-04-02 13:37                                     ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2013-03-27 18:04                   ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2013-03-27 16:20             ` Kenneth Goldman

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