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From: Anthony Liguori <aliguori@us.ibm.com>
To: Gerd Hoffmann <kraxel@redhat.com>
Cc: Rusty Russell <rusty@rustcorp.com.au>,
	virtualization@lists.linux-foundation.org,
	qemu-devel <qemu-devel@nongnu.org>,
	kvm@vger.kernel.org, "Michael S. Tsirkin" <mst@redhat.com>
Subject: Re: [Qemu-devel] Using PCI config space to indicate config location
Date: Mon, 08 Oct 2012 10:09:02 -0500	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <87k3v1gfw1.fsf@codemonkey.ws> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <5072EA14.30809@redhat.com>

Gerd Hoffmann <kraxel@redhat.com> writes:

>   Hi,
>
>> But I think we could solve this in a different way.  I think we could
>> just move the virtio configuration space to BAR1 by using a transport
>> feature bit.
>
> Why hard-code stuff?
>
> I think it makes alot of sense to have a capability simliar to msi-x
> which simply specifies bar and offset of the register sets:
>
> [root@fedora ~]# lspci -vvs4
> 00:04.0 SCSI storage controller: Red Hat, Inc Virtio block device
>         [ ... ]
> 	Region 0: I/O ports at c000 [size=64]
> 	Region 1: Memory at fc029000 (32-bit) [size=4K]
> 	Capabilities: [40] MSI-X: Enable+ Count=2 Masked-
> 		Vector table: BAR=1 offset=00000000
> 		PBA: BAR=1 offset=00000800

MSI-X capability is a standard PCI capability which is why lspci can
parse it.

>
> So we could have for virtio something like this:
>
>         Capabilities: [??] virtio-regs:
>                 legacy: BAR=0 offset=0
>                 virtio-pci: BAR=1 offset=1000
>                 virtio-cfg: BAR=1 offset=1800

This would be a vendor specific PCI capability so lspci wouldn't
automatically know how to parse it.

You could just as well teach lspci to parse BAR0 to figure out what
features are supported.

>> That then frees up the entire BAR0 for use as virtio-pci registers.  We
>> can then always include the virtio-pci MSI-X register space and
>> introduce all new virtio-pci registers as simply being appended.
>
> BAR0 needs to stay as-is for compatibility reasons.  New devices which
> don't have to care about old guests don't need to provide a 'legacy'
> register region.

A latch feature bit would allow the format to change without impacting
compatibility at all.

>>> 2) ISTR an argument about mapping the ISR register separately, for
>>>    performance, but I can't find a reference to it.
>> 
>> I think the rationale is that ISR really needs to be PIO but everything
>> else doesn't.  PIO is much faster on x86 because it doesn't require
>> walking page tables or instruction emulation to handle the exit.
>
> Is this still a pressing issue?  With MSI-X enabled ISR isn't needed,
> correct?  Which would imply that pretty much only old guests without
> MSI-X support need this, and we don't need to worry that much when
> designing something new ...

It wasn't that long ago that MSI-X wasn't supported..  I think we should
continue to keep ISR as PIO as it is a fast path.

Regards,

Anthony Liguori

>
> cheers,
>   Gerd
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  reply	other threads:[~2012-10-08 15:09 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 39+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2012-09-27  0:29 [Qemu-devel] Proposal for virtio standardization Rusty Russell
2012-10-04 18:49 ` Anthony Liguori
2012-10-08  2:21   ` [Qemu-devel] Using PCI config space to indicate config location Rusty Russell
2012-10-08 13:58     ` Anthony Liguori
2012-10-08 14:58       ` Gerd Hoffmann
2012-10-08 15:09         ` Anthony Liguori [this message]
2012-10-08 20:13           ` Gerd Hoffmann
2012-10-08 20:55             ` Anthony Liguori
2012-10-08 23:56               ` Rusty Russell
2012-10-09  1:51                 ` Anthony Liguori
2012-10-09  3:16                   ` Rusty Russell
2012-10-09 10:17                     ` Avi Kivity
2012-10-09 14:03                       ` Anthony Liguori
2012-10-09 13:56                     ` Anthony Liguori
2012-10-10  3:44                       ` Rusty Russell
2012-10-10 11:37                         ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2012-10-09 21:09                     ` Jamie Lokier
2012-10-10  3:44                       ` Rusty Russell
2012-10-11  0:08                         ` Rusty Russell
2012-10-09  6:33                   ` Gerd Hoffmann
2012-10-09 15:26                     ` Anthony Liguori
2012-10-09 20:24                       ` Gerd Hoffmann
2012-10-10  2:54                         ` Rusty Russell
2012-10-10 13:36                           ` Anthony Liguori
2012-10-10 13:41                             ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2012-10-11  0:43                               ` Rusty Russell
2012-10-10  8:34                 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2012-10-10  8:30     ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2012-10-11  1:18       ` Rusty Russell
2012-10-11 10:23         ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2012-10-11 22:29           ` Rusty Russell
2012-10-12  9:33             ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2012-10-12  9:51               ` Rusty Russell
2012-10-12 10:02                 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2012-10-16 13:15                   ` Rusty Russell
2012-10-16 13:30                     ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2012-10-16 13:52                       ` Rusty Russell
2012-10-09 14:02 ` [Qemu-devel] Proposal for virtio standardization Cornelia Huck
2012-10-10  3:46   ` Rusty Russell

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