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From: "Alex Bennée" <alex.bennee@linaro.org>
To: Akihiko Odaki <akihiko.odaki@daynix.com>
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Subject: Re: [RFC PATCH 00/24] plugins: Allow to read registers
Date: Mon, 14 Aug 2023 16:27:46 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <87leedprhl.fsf@linaro.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20230731084354.115015-1-akihiko.odaki@daynix.com>


Akihiko Odaki <akihiko.odaki@daynix.com> writes:

> I and other people in the University of Tokyo, where I research processor
> design, found TCG plugins are very useful for processor design
> exploration.

Thanks for the submission - I've finished my initial review pass.

I think introducing register introspection into the plugins subsystem is
a very worthwhile addition. I'm also happy (for now) to use the
underlying gdb support for it in lieu of a greater refactoring of QEMU's
multiple register introspection features.

> The feature we find missing is the capability to read registers from
> plugins. In this series, I propose to add such a capability by reusing
> gdbstub code.
>
> The reuse of gdbstub code ensures the long-term stability of the TCG plugin
> interface for register access without incurring a burden to maintain yet
> another interface for register access.

However I don't want to expose the gdb detail to plugins to leave us a
free hand in further internal clean-ups later on.

> This process to add TCG plugin involves four major changes. The first one
> is to add GDBFeature structure that represents a GDB feature, which usually
> includes registers. GDBFeature can be generated from static XML files or
> dynamically generated by architecture-specific code. In fact, this is a
> refactoring independent of the feature this series adds, and potentially
> it's benefitial even without the plugin feature. The plugin feature will
> utilize this new structure to describe registers exposed to plugins.

I think we can get cleanups to this handling in ahead of the wider
plugin feature. Ideally it would be nice to push the XML generation into
gdbstub itself but that might be more of a refactor than you are willing
to pursue for the time being.

> The second one is to make gdb_read_register/gdb_write_register usable
> outside of gdbstub context.
>
> The third one is to actually make registers readable for plugins.

Modulo isolating the plugin API from gdb specifics I'm happy with this
approach.

> The last one is to allow to implement a QEMU plugin in C++. A plugin that
> I'll describe later is written in C++.

I would want a more compelling reason that a hello world plugin for
this. Only because QEMU has removed a bunch of C++ dependency over the
last few years so I don't think we are in a rush to re-introduce it. 

Are you OK to do a re-spin addressing the comments so far?

-- 
Alex Bennée
Virtualisation Tech Lead @ Linaro


      parent reply	other threads:[~2023-08-14 15:36 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 61+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2023-07-31  8:43 [RFC PATCH 00/24] plugins: Allow to read registers Akihiko Odaki
2023-07-31  8:43 ` [RFC PATCH 01/24] contrib/plugins: Use GRWLock in execlog Akihiko Odaki
2023-08-14 10:48   ` Alex Bennée
2023-07-31  8:43 ` [RFC PATCH 02/24] gdbstub: Introduce GDBFeature structure Akihiko Odaki
2023-07-31 13:34   ` Philippe Mathieu-Daudé
2023-07-31 13:51   ` Philippe Mathieu-Daudé
2023-08-14 11:33   ` Alex Bennée
2023-07-31  8:43 ` [RFC PATCH 03/24] gdbstub: Add num_regs member to GDBFeature Akihiko Odaki
2023-07-31 13:35   ` Philippe Mathieu-Daudé
2023-08-14 11:44   ` Alex Bennée
2023-07-31  8:43 ` [RFC PATCH 04/24] gdbstub: Introduce gdb_find_static_feature() Akihiko Odaki
2023-07-31 13:52   ` Philippe Mathieu-Daudé
2023-08-14 11:56   ` Alex Bennée
2023-07-31  8:43 ` [RFC PATCH 05/24] target/arm: Move the reference to arm-core.xml Akihiko Odaki
2023-07-31  8:43 ` [RFC PATCH 06/24] hw/core/cpu: Replace gdb_core_xml_file with gdb_core_feature Akihiko Odaki
2023-07-31 13:27   ` Philippe Mathieu-Daudé
2023-07-31 13:37     ` Akihiko Odaki
2023-08-14 11:59   ` Alex Bennée
2023-08-16 13:47     ` Akihiko Odaki
2023-08-16 15:00       ` Alex Bennée
2023-08-16 15:10         ` Akihiko Odaki
2023-08-14 13:19   ` Alex Bennée
2023-07-31  8:43 ` [RFC PATCH 07/24] target/arm: Use GDBFeature for dynamic XML Akihiko Odaki
2023-07-31 13:44   ` Philippe Mathieu-Daudé
2023-07-31 14:00     ` Akihiko Odaki
2023-08-14 13:01   ` Alex Bennée
2023-07-31  8:43 ` [RFC PATCH 08/24] target/ppc: " Akihiko Odaki
2023-07-31 13:45   ` Philippe Mathieu-Daudé
2023-07-31  8:43 ` [RFC PATCH 09/24] target/riscv: " Akihiko Odaki
2023-07-31 13:46   ` Philippe Mathieu-Daudé
2023-07-31  8:43 ` [RFC PATCH 10/24] gdbstub: Use GDBFeature for gdb_register_coprocessor Akihiko Odaki
2023-08-14 13:13   ` Alex Bennée
2023-07-31  8:43 ` [RFC PATCH 11/24] gdbstub: Use GDBFeature for GDBRegisterState Akihiko Odaki
2023-07-31  8:43 ` [RFC PATCH 12/24] gdbstub: Simplify XML lookup Akihiko Odaki
2023-08-14 13:27   ` Alex Bennée
2023-08-16 13:51     ` Akihiko Odaki
2023-07-31  8:43 ` [RFC PATCH 13/24] hw/core/cpu: Remove gdb_get_dynamic_xml member Akihiko Odaki
2023-08-14 13:29   ` Alex Bennée
2023-07-31  8:43 ` [RFC PATCH 14/24] gdbstub: Add members to identify registers to GDBFeature Akihiko Odaki
2023-08-14 13:30   ` Alex Bennée
2023-07-31  8:43 ` [RFC PATCH 15/24] target/arm: Fill new members of GDBFeature Akihiko Odaki
2023-08-14 14:56   ` Alex Bennée
2023-08-16 14:23     ` Akihiko Odaki
2023-08-16 15:03       ` Alex Bennée
2023-08-16 15:11         ` Akihiko Odaki
2023-07-31  8:43 ` [RFC PATCH 16/24] target/ppc: " Akihiko Odaki
2023-07-31  8:43 ` [RFC PATCH 17/24] target/riscv: " Akihiko Odaki
2023-07-31  8:43 ` [RFC PATCH 18/24] hw/core/cpu: Add a parameter to gdb_read_register/gdb_write_register Akihiko Odaki
2023-07-31  8:43 ` [RFC PATCH 19/24] gdbstub: Hide gdb_has_xml Akihiko Odaki
2023-07-31  8:43 ` [RFC PATCH 20/24] gdbstub: Expose functions to read registers Akihiko Odaki
2023-07-31  8:43 ` [RFC PATCH 21/24] plugins: Allow " Akihiko Odaki
2023-08-14 15:05   ` Alex Bennée
2023-08-16 14:38     ` Akihiko Odaki
2023-07-31  8:43 ` [RFC PATCH 22/24] contrib/plugins: Allow to log registers Akihiko Odaki
2023-08-14 15:21   ` Alex Bennée
2023-08-16 14:59     ` Akihiko Odaki
2023-07-31  8:43 ` [RFC PATCH 23/24] plugins: Support C++ Akihiko Odaki
2023-07-31  8:43 ` [RFC PATCH 24/24] contrib/plugins: Add cc plugin Akihiko Odaki
2023-08-14 15:23   ` Alex Bennée
2023-08-16 15:04     ` Akihiko Odaki
2023-08-14 15:27 ` Alex Bennée [this message]

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