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From: "Alex Bennée" <alex.bennee@linaro.org>
To: Peter Maydell <peter.maydell@linaro.org>
Cc: Paolo Bonzini <pbonzini@redhat.com>,
	QEMU Developers <qemu-devel@nongnu.org>,
	Kashyap Chamarthy <kchamart@redhat.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v3 05/33] qemu-doc: split qemu-doc.texi in multiple files
Date: Mon, 02 Mar 2020 14:18:36 +0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <87lfoi96wz.fsf@linaro.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAFEAcA-WYXtkkCshv_eDV5Rj8ER4yfDmf5V=HaT-Jo5cSJr0vA@mail.gmail.com>


Peter Maydell <peter.maydell@linaro.org> writes:

> On Mon, 2 Mar 2020 at 11:22, Alex Bennée <alex.bennee@linaro.org> wrote:
>>
>>
>> Peter Maydell <peter.maydell@linaro.org> writes:
>>
>> > From: Paolo Bonzini <pbonzini@redhat.com>
>> >
>> > In order to facilitate the reorganization of qemu-doc.texi content,
>> > as well as the conversion to rST/Sphinx, split it in multiple .texi
>> > files that are included from docs/system.
>> >
>> > The "other devices" section is renamed to ivshmem and placed last.
>> >
>> > Signed-off-by: Paolo Bonzini <pbonzini@redhat.com>
>> > Message-id: 20200226113034.6741-6-pbonzini@redhat.com
>> > Reviewed-by: Peter Maydell <peter.maydell@linaro.org>
>> > Signed-off-by: Peter Maydell <peter.maydell@linaro.org>
>> > ---
>> >  Makefile                         |   16 +
>> >  docs/system/build-platforms.texi |   67 ++
>> >  docs/system/gdb.texi             |   71 ++
>>
>> The gdb test would be better served in docs/core if we could have
>> optional sections on invocation rendering depending on if it's built
>> with system emulation or linux-user docs. Is that something that's
>> already supported?
>
> No, for three reasons:
>
> (1) we build all the docs, always -- there's no concept
> of "skip some bits of docs if some configure feature was
> disabled"
>
> (2) there is no docs/core -- the subdirectories of docs/
> correspond to the "manuals" which we want to present to
> the user, like "Manual for system emulation users" and
> "Manual for user-mode users" and "Manual for the
> standalone tools"; a "core" manual wouldn't fit into this
> classification, and we already have slightly more manuals
> than I'm entirely comfortable with.

I wasn't clear. I don't want an additional document but I'd like to
include information on the gdbstub in both the system and linux-user
manuals. Another candidate for documentation which is common to both
would be the notes about TCG CPU emulation.

> (3) Sphinx's support for conditional documentation is
> not very good, as it is implemented at the "wrong"
> end of the pipeline (ie it's not like a preprocessor
> ifdef, but instead is just "suppress the output", so
> manual pieces inside a disabled ifdef still turn up
> in places like the index and table of contents). The
> best you can do is to mess around with the include
> directive, but if we do that too much then things get
> awkward to understand and maintain. (We do it a bit
> in this series to handle "manpage vs manual" stuff.)

In the case of the gdbstub the only real difference is the invocation
section (-s vs -g). I guess we could just reference both in the section.
It's not like the linux-user documents can't acknowledge the existence
of system emulation and visa-versa.

>
> thanks
> -- PMM


-- 
Alex Bennée


  reply	other threads:[~2020-03-02 14:19 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 82+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2020-02-28 15:35 [PATCH v3 00/33] Convert qemu-doc to rST Peter Maydell
2020-02-28 15:35 ` [PATCH v3 01/33] qemu-doc: convert user-mode emulation to a separate Sphinx manual Peter Maydell
2020-03-02 11:05   ` Alex Bennée
2020-02-28 15:35 ` [PATCH v3 02/33] qemu-doc: remove target OS documentation Peter Maydell
2020-03-02 11:05   ` Alex Bennée
2020-02-28 15:35 ` [PATCH v3 03/33] texi2pod: parse @include directives outside "@c man" blocks Peter Maydell
2020-03-02 11:07   ` Alex Bennée
2020-02-28 15:35 ` [PATCH v3 04/33] qemu-doc: split CPU models doc between MIPS and x86 parts Peter Maydell
2020-03-02 11:18   ` Alex Bennée
2020-02-28 15:35 ` [PATCH v3 05/33] qemu-doc: split qemu-doc.texi in multiple files Peter Maydell
2020-03-02 11:22   ` Alex Bennée
2020-03-02 12:16     ` Peter Maydell
2020-03-02 14:18       ` Alex Bennée [this message]
2020-02-28 15:35 ` [PATCH v3 06/33] qemu-doc: extract common system emulator documentation from the PC section Peter Maydell
2020-03-02 11:25   ` Alex Bennée
2020-02-28 15:35 ` [PATCH v3 07/33] qemu-doc: move system requirements chapter inside " Peter Maydell
2020-02-28 15:35 ` [PATCH v3 08/33] qemu-doc: split target sections to separate files Peter Maydell
2020-03-02 11:28   ` Alex Bennée
2020-02-28 15:35 ` [PATCH v3 09/33] qemu-doc: Remove the "CPU emulation" part of the "Implementation notes" Peter Maydell
2020-03-02 11:30   ` Alex Bennée
2020-02-28 15:35 ` [PATCH v3 10/33] qemu-doc: move qemu-tech.texi into main section Peter Maydell
2020-03-02 11:31   ` Alex Bennée
2020-02-28 15:35 ` [PATCH v3 11/33] qemu-doc: move included files to docs/system Peter Maydell
2020-03-02 11:31   ` Alex Bennée
2020-02-28 15:35 ` [PATCH v3 12/33] qemu-doc: remove indices other than findex Peter Maydell
2020-03-02 11:32   ` Alex Bennée
2020-02-28 15:35 ` [PATCH v3 13/33] docs/system: put qemu-block-drivers body in an included file Peter Maydell
2020-03-02 11:32   ` Alex Bennée
2020-02-28 15:36 ` [PATCH v3 14/33] docs: Create defs.rst.inc as a place to define substitutions Peter Maydell
2020-03-02 12:40   ` Kashyap Chamarthy
2020-02-28 15:36 ` [PATCH v3 15/33] docs/system: Convert qemu-cpu-models.texi to rST Peter Maydell
2020-03-02 12:08   ` Alex Bennée
2020-02-28 15:36 ` [PATCH v3 16/33] docs/system: Convert security.texi to rST format Peter Maydell
2020-03-02 12:10   ` Alex Bennée
2020-02-28 15:36 ` [PATCH v3 17/33] docs/system: convert managed startup to rST Peter Maydell
2020-03-02 12:10   ` Alex Bennée
2020-02-28 15:36 ` [PATCH v3 18/33] docs/system: convert the documentation of deprecated features " Peter Maydell
2020-03-02 12:12   ` Alex Bennée
2020-02-28 15:36 ` [PATCH v3 19/33] docs/system: convert Texinfo documentation " Peter Maydell
2020-03-02 12:13   ` Alex Bennée
2020-02-28 15:36 ` [PATCH v3 20/33] hmp-commands.hx: Add rST documentation fragments Peter Maydell
2020-03-02 12:16   ` Alex Bennée
2020-02-28 15:36 ` [PATCH v3 21/33] hmp-commands-info.hx: " Peter Maydell
2020-03-02 12:16   ` Alex Bennée
2020-02-28 15:36 ` [PATCH v3 22/33] doc/scripts/hxtool.py: Strip trailing ':' from DEFHEADING/ARCHHEADING Peter Maydell
2020-03-02 12:17   ` Alex Bennée
2020-02-28 15:36 ` [PATCH v3 23/33] docs: Roll semihosting option information into qemu-options.hx Peter Maydell
2020-03-02 12:18   ` Alex Bennée
2020-02-28 15:36 ` [PATCH v3 24/33] docs: Roll -prom-env and -g target-specific info " Peter Maydell
2020-03-02 12:19   ` Alex Bennée
2020-02-28 15:36 ` [PATCH v3 25/33] scripts/hxtool-conv: Archive script used in qemu-options.hx conversion Peter Maydell
2020-03-02 12:19   ` Alex Bennée
2020-02-28 15:36 ` [PATCH v3 26/33] qemu-options.hx: Add rST documentation fragments Peter Maydell
2020-03-02 12:20   ` Alex Bennée
2020-02-28 15:36 ` [PATCH v3 27/33] qemu-options.hx: Fix up the autogenerated rST Peter Maydell
2020-03-02 12:23   ` Alex Bennée
2020-02-28 15:36 ` [PATCH v3 28/33] docs: Split out sections for the manpage into .rst.inc files Peter Maydell
2020-03-02 12:24   ` Alex Bennée
2020-02-28 15:36 ` [PATCH v3 29/33] docs: Generate qemu.1 manpage with Sphinx Peter Maydell
2020-03-02 12:24   ` Alex Bennée
2020-02-28 15:36 ` [PATCH v3 30/33] ui/cocoa.m: Update documentation file and pathname Peter Maydell
2020-03-02 12:28   ` Alex Bennée
2020-02-28 15:36 ` [PATCH v3 31/33] docs: Stop building qemu-doc Peter Maydell
2020-03-02 12:32   ` Alex Bennée
2020-03-11 14:53   ` Markus Armbruster
2020-03-11 15:15     ` Peter Maydell
2020-03-12  6:06       ` Markus Armbruster
2020-03-12 10:11         ` Peter Maydell
2020-03-12 13:16           ` Markus Armbruster
2020-02-28 15:36 ` [PATCH v3 32/33] docs: Remove old texinfo sources Peter Maydell
2020-03-02 12:34   ` Alex Bennée
2020-03-02 12:42   ` Kashyap Chamarthy
2020-02-28 15:36 ` [PATCH v3 33/33] *.hx: Remove all the STEXI/ETEXI blocks Peter Maydell
2020-03-02 12:36   ` Alex Bennée
2020-02-28 18:36 ` [PATCH v3 00/33] Convert qemu-doc to rST Peter Maydell
2020-02-28 21:20   ` Stefan Weil
2020-02-29 11:50     ` Peter Maydell
2020-03-02 12:41 ` Alex Bennée
2020-03-03 17:35 ` Peter Maydell
2020-03-03 17:44   ` Paolo Bonzini
2020-03-03 18:19   ` Alex Bennée
2020-03-04  9:12   ` Kashyap Chamarthy

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