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From: "Alex Bennée" <alex.bennee@linaro.org>
To: Richard Henderson <rth@twiddle.net>
Cc: qemu-devel@nongnu.org, aurelien@aurel32.net
Subject: Re: [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 06/16] tcg: Add temp_global bit to TCGTemp
Date: Wed, 28 Jun 2017 09:52:04 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <87mv8swl3f.fsf@linaro.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <5554273c-7858-9048-5c2c-4677884baff5@twiddle.net>


Richard Henderson <rth@twiddle.net> writes:

> On 06/27/2017 01:39 AM, Alex Bennée wrote:
>>> +    /* If true, the temp is saved across both basic blocks and
>>> +       translation blocks.  */
>>> +    unsigned int temp_global:1;
>>> +    /* If true, the temp is saved across basic blocks but dead
>>> +       at the end of translation blocks.  If false, the temp is
>>> +       dead at the end of basic blocks.  */
>>> +    unsigned int temp_local:1;
>>> +    unsigned int temp_allocated:1;
>>
>> This is where my knowledge of the TCG internals gets slightly confused.
>> As far as I'm aware all our TranslationBlocks are Basic Blocks - they
>> don't have any branches until the end of the block. What is the
>> distinction here?
>>
>> Is a temp_global truly global? I thought the guest state was fully
>> rectified by the time we leave the basic block.
>
> TranslationBlocks are not basic blocks.  They normally stop at
> branches in the target instruction stream, but they certainly may have
> many branches in the tcg opcode stream (brcond and the like).
> Consider, for instance, our implementation of arm32's conditional
> instructions.

Right. Re-reading the tcg/README it does make the distinction but the
term "basic block" is overloaded depending on when talking about the
guest instructions or the generated code.

>
> Beyond that, I agree the language is confusing.
>
> A temp_global is created by tcg_global_mem_new_*, generally represents
> a cpu register, and is synced back to a slot in ENV.
>
> A temp_local is created by tcg_temp_local_new_*, and is synced to a
> slot in the local stack frame.

The language from the README:

  A TCG "temporary" is a variable only live in a basic
  block. Temporaries are allocated explicitly in each function.

  A TCG "local temporary" is a variable only live in a function. Local
  temporaries are allocated explicitly in each function.

I must admit I hadn't quite understood the distinction. In the ARM code
the only place where tcg_temp_local_new() over tcg_temp_new() is used is
in the ld/strex code. I guess because you need to preserve its value
over a potential TCG branch?

I guess in translate-a64/gen_store_exclusive() the key lines are:

  TCGv_i64 addr = tcg_temp_local_new_i64();

  /* Copy input into a local temp so it is not trashed when the
   * basic block ends at the branch insn.
   */
  tcg_gen_mov_i64(addr, inaddr);
  tcg_gen_brcond_i64(TCG_COND_NE, addr, cpu_exclusive_addr, fail_label);

> Something without either is simply declared dead at the end of a basic
> block, and is a source of confusion to those writing new front-ends.

I'll see if I can come up with some improved wording to help new
developers in the future.

> Anyway, we already have all of these concepts.  The change is that
> before the patch the only way to tell a temp_global is to compare the
> index against tcg_ctx.nb_global.

Indeed. As I have previously really only been a consumer of the TCG API
I'm taking the opportunity to learn more about the internals as the
vector work is likely to touch it ;-)

>
>
> r~


--
Alex Bennée

  reply	other threads:[~2017-06-28  8:51 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 40+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2017-06-21  2:48 [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 00/16] Cleanups within TCG middle-end Richard Henderson
2017-06-21  2:48 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 01/16] tcg: Merge opcode arguments into TCGOp Richard Henderson
2017-06-26 14:44   ` Alex Bennée
2017-06-26 14:55     ` Richard Henderson
2017-06-21  2:48 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 02/16] tcg: Propagate args to op->args in optimizer Richard Henderson
2017-06-26 14:53   ` Alex Bennée
2017-06-21  2:48 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 03/16] tcg: Propagate args to op->args in tcg.c Richard Henderson
2017-06-26 15:02   ` Alex Bennée
2017-06-26 15:07     ` Richard Henderson
2017-06-21  2:48 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 04/16] tcg: Propagate TCGOp down to allocators Richard Henderson
2017-06-26 15:08   ` Alex Bennée
2017-06-21  2:48 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 05/16] tcg: Introduce arg_temp Richard Henderson
2017-06-26 16:37   ` Alex Bennée
2017-06-21  2:48 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 06/16] tcg: Add temp_global bit to TCGTemp Richard Henderson
2017-06-27  8:39   ` Alex Bennée
2017-06-27 16:17     ` Richard Henderson
2017-06-28  8:52       ` Alex Bennée [this message]
2017-06-21  2:48 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 07/16] tcg: Return NULL temp for TCG_CALL_DUMMY_ARG Richard Henderson
2017-06-27  8:47   ` Alex Bennée
2017-06-27 16:36     ` Richard Henderson
2017-06-21  2:48 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 08/16] tcg: Introduce temp_arg Richard Henderson
2017-06-21  2:48 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 09/16] tcg: Use per-temp state data in liveness Richard Henderson
2017-06-27  8:57   ` Alex Bennée
2017-06-27 16:39     ` Richard Henderson
2017-06-21  2:48 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 10/16] tcg: Avoid loops against variable bounds Richard Henderson
2017-06-27  9:01   ` Alex Bennée
2017-06-21  2:48 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 11/16] tcg: Change temp_allocate_frame arg to TCGTemp Richard Henderson
2017-06-21  2:48 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 12/16] tcg: Remove unused TCG_CALL_DUMMY_TCGV Richard Henderson
2017-06-27  9:42   ` Alex Bennée
2017-06-21  2:48 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 13/16] tcg: Export temp_idx Richard Henderson
2017-06-27  9:46   ` Alex Bennée
2017-06-27 16:43     ` Richard Henderson
2017-06-21  2:48 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 14/16] tcg: Use per-temp state data in optimize Richard Henderson
2017-06-27  9:59   ` Alex Bennée
2017-06-21  2:48 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 15/16] tcg: Define separate structures for TCGv_* Richard Henderson
2017-06-21  2:48 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 16/16] tcg: Store pointers to temporaries directly in TCGArg Richard Henderson
2017-06-21  3:43 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 00/16] Cleanups within TCG middle-end no-reply
2017-06-26 16:49 ` Alex Bennée
2017-06-26 17:47   ` Richard Henderson
2017-06-26 19:19     ` Alex Bennée

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