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From: Anthony Liguori <aliguori@us.ibm.com>
To: Aurelien Jarno <aurelien@aurel32.net>
Cc: "Paolo Bonzini" <pbonzini@redhat.com>,
	mst@redhat.com, qemu-devel@nongnu.org,
	"Andreas Färber" <afaerber@suse.de>
Subject: Re: [Qemu-devel] [PATCH for-1.5 0/9] Disable expensive QOM cast debugging for official releases
Date: Fri, 10 May 2013 14:35:54 -0500	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <87mws2631h.fsf@codemonkey.ws> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20130510190019.GE19954@ohm.aurel32.net>

Aurelien Jarno <aurelien@aurel32.net> writes:

> On Fri, May 10, 2013 at 12:41:07PM -0500, Anthony Liguori wrote:
>> Paolo Bonzini <pbonzini@redhat.com> writes:
>> 
>> > Il 10/05/2013 16:39, Anthony Liguori ha scritto:
>> >> I just oppose the notion of disabling casts and *especially* only
>> >> disabling casts for official builds.
>> >
>> > This actually happens all the time.  Exactly this kind of type-safe cast
>> > is disabled in releases of GCC, but enabled when building from svn trunk.
>> 
>> Let's assume for a moment that you are right and this behavior is what
>> we should have.  Let's also assume there is a real regression here
>> which has yet to have been established.
>
> I have pointed out in another mail of this thread, that this type
> checking account for about 9% of slowdown. Isn't that enough to say it's
> a regression?

Yes, it's a regression.  I hadn't seen your note when I wrote the above.

I believe http://article.gmane.org/gmane.comp.emulators.qemu/210976
fixes the problem without eliminating any checking.

> I still have to compare to 1.4, but it's not very fair, as a
> significant work has been but on TCG to improve the performances,
> especially on the target-ppc code.
>
> I am currently preparing an image so that people can test that
> themselves.

I can reproduce large numbers of casts FWIW so no need to on my end.
I've confirmed the above patch fixes it.

>> Disabling casts doesn't give us a long term fix.  One of the solutions
>> above does and patches also exist.
>
> Why do you insist on using dynamic cast, on a hot path?

It's a question of safety.

> It was using a
> simple pointer before QOM in 1.4, it won't be less safe with if we use
> a static cast instead of a dynamic one in 1.5.

The patch I posted should make it equally fast.

> With your arguments, we should drop all dataplane code, as it doesn't
> use the QEMU core code. People should just not complain about the
> performance.

No one is complaining about performance.

I merely stated that if performance is a problem, give us a chance to
fix it before completely disabling a feature.

And indeed, now I have a fix that doesn't disable anything.

Regards,

Anthony Liguori

>
> -- 
> Aurelien Jarno                          GPG: 1024D/F1BCDB73
> aurelien@aurel32.net                 http://www.aurel32.net

  reply	other threads:[~2013-05-10 19:36 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 33+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2013-05-10 12:16 [Qemu-devel] [PATCH for-1.5 0/9] Disable expensive QOM cast debugging for official releases Paolo Bonzini
2013-05-10 12:16 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH for-1.5 1/9] qom: improve documentation of cast functions Paolo Bonzini
2013-05-10 12:16 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH for-1.5 2/9] qom: allow casting of a NULL class Paolo Bonzini
2013-05-10 12:16 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH for-1.5 3/9] qom: add a fast path to object_class_dynamic_cast Paolo Bonzini
2013-05-10 12:16 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH for-1.5 4/9] qom: pass file/line/function to asserting casts Paolo Bonzini
2013-05-10 12:16 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH for-1.5 5/9] qom: trace " Paolo Bonzini
2013-05-10 12:16 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH for-1.5 6/9] qom: allow turning cast debugging off Paolo Bonzini
2013-05-10 12:16 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH for-1.5 7/9] build: disable QOM cast debugging for official releases Paolo Bonzini
2013-05-10 12:16 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH for-1.5 8/9] qom: simplify object_class_dynamic_cast, part 1 Paolo Bonzini
2013-05-10 17:52   ` Anthony Liguori
2013-05-10 12:16 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH for-1.5 9/9] qom: simplify object_class_dynamic_cast, part 2 Paolo Bonzini
2013-05-10 13:01 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH for-1.5 0/9] Disable expensive QOM cast debugging for official releases Anthony Liguori
2013-05-10 13:08   ` Paolo Bonzini
2013-05-10 13:23     ` Andreas Färber
2013-05-10 13:30       ` Paolo Bonzini
2013-05-10 14:22         ` Aurelien Jarno
2013-05-10 14:39         ` Anthony Liguori
2013-05-10 14:59           ` Paolo Bonzini
2013-05-10 17:41             ` Anthony Liguori
2013-05-10 19:00               ` Aurelien Jarno
2013-05-10 19:35                 ` Anthony Liguori [this message]
2013-05-10 20:59               ` Paolo Bonzini
2013-05-10 23:06                 ` Anthony Liguori
2013-05-11  7:59                   ` Paolo Bonzini
2013-05-11  7:23                 ` Aurelien Jarno
2013-05-10 14:27     ` Anthony Liguori
2013-05-10 14:46       ` Aurelien Jarno
2013-05-10 15:04         ` Andreas Färber
2013-05-10 15:56 ` Aurelien Jarno
2013-05-10 16:18   ` Andreas Färber
2013-05-10 16:40     ` Paolo Bonzini
2013-05-10 18:50   ` Anthony Liguori
2013-05-13 16:46 ` Anthony Liguori

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