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From: Anthony Liguori <aliguori@us.ibm.com>
To: Luiz Capitulino <lcapitulino@redhat.com>
Cc: Kevin Wolf <kwolf@redhat.com>,
	peter.maydell@linaro.org, qemu-devel@nongnu.org,
	armbru@redhat.com, pbonzini@redhat.com, afaerber@suse.de
Subject: Re: [Qemu-devel] [RFC 00/14]: add printf-like human msg to error_set()
Date: Thu, 26 Jul 2012 10:05:34 -0500	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <87mx2md0ld.fsf@codemonkey.ws> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20120726111229.22e5a71e@doriath.home>

Luiz Capitulino <lcapitulino@redhat.com> writes:

> On Thu, 26 Jul 2012 07:41:07 -0500
> Anthony Liguori <aliguori@us.ibm.com> wrote:
>
>> Kevin Wolf <kwolf@redhat.com> writes:
>> 
>> > Am 26.07.2012 04:43, schrieb Anthony Liguori:
>> >> Luiz Capitulino <lcapitulino@redhat.com> writes:
>> >> 
>> >>> Basically, this series changes a call like:
>> >>>
>> >>>  error_set(errp, QERR_DEVICE_NOT_FOUND, device);
>> >>>
>> >>> to:
>> >>>
>> >>>  error_set(errp, QERR_DEVICE_NOT_FOUND,
>> >>>            "Device 'device=%s' not found", device);
>> >>>
>> >>> In the first call, QERR_DEVICE_NOT_FOUND is a string containing a json dict:
>> >>>
>> >>>     "{ 'class': 'DeviceNotFound', 'data': { 'device': %s } }"
>> >> 
>> >> This is the wrong direction.  Looking through the patch, this makes the
>> >> code much more redundant overall.  You have dozens of calls that are
>> >> duplicating the same error message.  This is not progress.
>> >
>> > I believe this is mostly because it's a mechanical conversion. Once this
>> > is done, we can change error messages to better fit the individual
>> > cases.
>
> Correct.
>
>> 
>> We don't gain anything by touching every user of error and the code gets
>> more verbose. 
>
> We do gain the possibility to have better and different human messages for the
> same error class. That's impossible today. And creating a different error class
> just to have a different error message is just crazy (which is what we do
> today, btw).
>
> Now, if the problem you see is that we shouldn't touch current users but
> add a new function for new users to use (or change old users incrementally, when
> it matters), then we can discuss that.

Yup, that's what I've been saying.

>
>> If we want to modify an existing error for some good
>> reason, we can do so my changing error types.
>
> You mean, creating a new error class just to have a different human message?
> We have 70+ classes today, how many will we have in another year?

"changing error types" -> to use the new QERR_GENERIC one.

>> >> We should just stick with a simple QERR_GENERIC and call it a day.
>> >> Let's not needlessly complicate existing code.
>> >
>> > Why even have error codes when everything should become QERR_GENERIC? Or
>> > am I misunderstanding?
>> 
>> If we want to add an error code, we can do:
>> 
>>    error_set(QERR_GENERIC, "domain", "My free form text")
>> 
>> And then yes, we can change this to:
>> 
>>    error_setf(errp, "domain", "My free form text")
>
> Would domain be the error classes we have today?

I'd be perfectly content with letting domain be a free form text that's
managed by the subsystem and not centrally defined.  If we also stick:

error_setf(errp, "domain", int_code, "My free form text")

Then we're GError compatible.  If we throw away our existing error
infrastructure and incrementally adopt GError, then that excites me :-)

> If error_setf() ends result is similar to what this series does with
> error_set(), then that might be acceptable, although I fear we keep
> adding new ways to report errors.

I think having an end goal of using GError is a good way to avoid the
never ending cycle of inventing a better mouse trap.

Regards,

Anthony Liguori

  reply	other threads:[~2012-07-26 15:06 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 37+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2012-07-25 20:50 [Qemu-devel] [RFC 00/14]: add printf-like human msg to error_set() Luiz Capitulino
2012-07-25 20:50 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 01/14] monitor: drop unused monitor debug code Luiz Capitulino
2012-07-25 20:50 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 02/14] qerror: reduce public exposure Luiz Capitulino
2012-07-25 20:50 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 03/14] qerror: drop qerror_abort() Luiz Capitulino
2012-07-26 12:33   ` Markus Armbruster
2012-07-26 15:02     ` Luiz Capitulino
2012-07-26 12:59   ` Eric Blake
2012-07-25 20:50 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 04/14] qerror: drop qerror_report_internal() Luiz Capitulino
2012-07-26 12:35   ` Markus Armbruster
2012-07-25 20:50 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 05/14] qerror: qerror_format(): return an allocated string Luiz Capitulino
2012-07-25 20:50 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 06/14] qerror: don't delay error message construction Luiz Capitulino
2012-07-25 20:50 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 07/14] error: " Luiz Capitulino
2012-07-25 20:50 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 08/14] qerror: add build_error_dict() and error_object_table[] Luiz Capitulino
2012-07-26 12:52   ` Markus Armbruster
2012-07-25 20:50 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 09/14] qerror: qerror_report(): take an index and a human error message Luiz Capitulino
2012-07-25 20:50 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 10/14] error: error_set(): " Luiz Capitulino
2012-07-25 20:50 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 11/14] qerror: drop qerror_table[] for good Luiz Capitulino
2012-07-26 12:54   ` Markus Armbruster
2012-07-25 20:50 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 12/14] error: turn QERR_ macros into an enumeration Luiz Capitulino
2012-07-25 20:50 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 13/14] qerror: change all qerror_report() calls to use the ErrClass enum Luiz Capitulino
2012-07-25 20:50 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 14/14] error: change all error_set() " Luiz Capitulino
2012-07-26  2:43 ` [Qemu-devel] [RFC 00/14]: add printf-like human msg to error_set() Anthony Liguori
2012-07-26  9:45   ` Kevin Wolf
2012-07-26 12:41     ` Anthony Liguori
2012-07-26 14:12       ` Luiz Capitulino
2012-07-26 15:05         ` Anthony Liguori [this message]
2012-07-26 15:52           ` Markus Armbruster
2012-07-26 14:40       ` Kevin Wolf
2012-07-26 15:20         ` Anthony Liguori
2012-07-26 16:12   ` Daniel P. Berrange
2012-07-26 16:38     ` Markus Armbruster
2012-07-26 15:54 ` Markus Armbruster
2012-07-26 16:03   ` Paolo Bonzini
2012-07-26 16:37     ` Luiz Capitulino
2012-07-27 13:17       ` Andreas Färber
2012-07-27 13:45         ` Anthony Liguori
2012-07-27 14:27         ` Luiz Capitulino

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