From: Fabiano Rosas <farosas@suse.de>
To: Peter Xu <peterx@redhat.com>
Cc: qemu-devel@nongnu.org, berrange@redhat.com, armbru@redhat.com,
Claudio Fontana <cfontana@suse.de>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v4 22/34] migration/multifd: Prepare multifd sync for fixed-ram migration
Date: Tue, 27 Feb 2024 11:00:44 -0300 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <87plwivwfn.fsf@suse.de> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <Zd1cj4jkIpUktu6k@x1n>
Peter Xu <peterx@redhat.com> writes:
> On Mon, Feb 26, 2024 at 07:52:20PM -0300, Fabiano Rosas wrote:
>> Peter Xu <peterx@redhat.com> writes:
>>
>> > On Tue, Feb 20, 2024 at 07:41:26PM -0300, Fabiano Rosas wrote:
>> >> The fixed-ram migration can be performed live or non-live, but it is
>> >> always asynchronous, i.e. the source machine and the destination
>> >> machine are not migrating at the same time. We only need some pieces
>> >> of the multifd sync operations.
>> >>
>> >> multifd_send_sync_main()
>> >> ------------------------
>> >> Issued by the ram migration code on the migration thread, causes the
>> >> multifd send channels to synchronize with the migration thread and
>> >> makes the sending side emit a packet with the MULTIFD_FLUSH flag.
>> >>
>> >> With fixed-ram we want to maintain the sync on the sending side
>> >> because that provides ordering between the rounds of dirty pages when
>> >> migrating live.
>> >>
>> >> MULTIFD_FLUSH
>> >> -------------
>> >> On the receiving side, the presence of the MULTIFD_FLUSH flag on a
>> >> packet causes the receiving channels to start synchronizing with the
>> >> main thread.
>> >>
>> >> We're not using packets with fixed-ram, so there's no MULTIFD_FLUSH
>> >> flag and therefore no channel sync on the receiving side.
>> >>
>> >> multifd_recv_sync_main()
>> >> ------------------------
>> >> Issued by the migration thread when the ram migration flag
>> >> RAM_SAVE_FLAG_MULTIFD_FLUSH is received, causes the migration thread
>> >> on the receiving side to start synchronizing with the recv
>> >> channels. Due to compatibility, this is also issued when
>> >> RAM_SAVE_FLAG_EOS is received.
>> >>
>> >> For fixed-ram we only need to synchronize the channels at the end of
>> >> migration to avoid doing cleanup before the channels have finished
>> >> their IO.
>> >>
>> >> Make sure the multifd syncs are only issued at the appropriate
>> >> times. Note that due to pre-existing backward compatibility issues, we
>> >> have the multifd_flush_after_each_section property that enables an
>> >> older behavior of synchronizing channels more frequently (and
>> >> inefficiently). Fixed-ram should always run with that property
>> >> disabled (default).
>> >
>> > What if the user enables multifd_flush_after_each_section=true?
>> >
>> > IMHO we don't necessarily need to attach the fixed-ram loading flush to any
>> > flag in the stream. For fixed-ram IIUC all the loads will happen in one
>> > shot of ram_load() anyway when parsing the ramblock list, so.. how about we
>> > decouple the fixed-ram load flush from the stream by always do a sync in
>> > ram_load() unconditionally?
>>
>> I would like to. But it's not possible because ram_load() is called once
>> per section. So once for each EOS flag on the stream. We'll have at
>> least two calls to ram_load(), once due to qemu_savevm_state_iterate()
>> and another due to qemu_savevm_state_complete_precopy().
>>
>> The fact that fixed-ram can use just one load doesn't change the fact
>> that we perform more than one "save". So we'll need to use the FLUSH
>> flag in this case unfortunately.
>
> After I re-read it, I found one more issue.
>
> Now recv side sync is "once and for all" - it doesn't allow a second time
> to sync_main because it syncs only until quits. That is IMHO making the
> code much harder to maintain, and we'll need rich comment to explain why is
> that happening.
>
> Ideally any "sync main" for recv threads can be called multiple times. And
> IMHO it's not really hard. Actually it can make the code much cleaner by
> merging some logic between socket-based and file-based from that regard.
>
> I tried to play with your branch and propose something like this, just to
> show what I meant. This should allow all new fixed-ram test to pass here,
> meanwhile it should allow sync main on recv side to be re-entrant, sharing
> the logic with socket-based as much as possible:
>
> =====
> diff --git a/migration/multifd.c b/migration/multifd.c
> index a0202b5661..28480f6cfe 100644
> --- a/migration/multifd.c
> +++ b/migration/multifd.c
> @@ -86,10 +86,8 @@ struct {
> /* number of created threads */
> int count;
> /*
> - * For sockets: this is posted once for each MULTIFD_FLAG_SYNC flag.
> - *
> - * For files: this is only posted at the end of the file load to mark
> - * completion of the load process.
> + * This is always posted by the recv threads, the main thread uses it
> + * to wait for recv threads to finish assigned tasks.
> */
> QemuSemaphore sem_sync;
> /* global number of generated multifd packets */
> @@ -1316,38 +1314,55 @@ void multifd_recv_cleanup(void)
> multifd_recv_cleanup_state();
> }
>
> -
> -/*
> - * Wait until all channels have finished receiving data. Once this
> - * function returns, cleanup routines are safe to run.
> - */
> -static void multifd_file_recv_sync(void)
> +static void multifd_recv_file_sync_request(void)
> {
> int i;
>
> for (i = 0; i < migrate_multifd_channels(); i++) {
> MultiFDRecvParams *p = &multifd_recv_state->params[i];
>
> - trace_multifd_recv_sync_main_wait(p->id);
> -
> + /*
> + * We play a trick here: instead of using a separate pending_sync
> + * to send a sync request (like what we do on senders), we simply
> + * kick the recv thread once without setting pending_job.
> + *
> + * If there's already a pending_job, the thread will only see it
> + * after it processed the current. If there's no pending_job,
> + * it'll see this immediately.
> + */
> qemu_sem_post(&p->sem);
> -
> trace_multifd_recv_sync_main_signal(p->id);
> - qemu_sem_wait(&p->sem_sync);
> }
> - return;
> }
>
> +/*
> + * Request a sync for all the multifd recv threads.
> + *
> + * For socket-based, sync request is much more complicated, which relies on
> + * collaborations between both explicit RAM_SAVE_FLAG_MULTIFD_FLUSH in the
> + * main stream, and MULTIFD_FLAG_SYNC flag in per-channel protocol. Here
> + * it should be invoked by the main stream request.
> + *
> + * For file-based, it is much simpler, because there's no need for a strong
> + * sync semantics between the main thread and the recv threads. What we
> + * need is only to make sure all recv threads finished their tasks.
> + */
> void multifd_recv_sync_main(void)
> {
> + bool file_based = !multifd_use_packets();
> int i;
>
> if (!migrate_multifd()) {
> return;
> }
>
> - if (!multifd_use_packets()) {
> - return multifd_file_recv_sync();
> + if (file_based) {
> + /*
> + * File-based multifd requires an explicit sync request because
> + * tasks are assigned by the main recv thread, rather than parsed
> + * through the multifd channels.
> + */
> + multifd_recv_file_sync_request();
> }
>
> for (i = 0; i < migrate_multifd_channels(); i++) {
> @@ -1356,6 +1371,11 @@ void multifd_recv_sync_main(void)
> trace_multifd_recv_sync_main_wait(p->id);
> qemu_sem_wait(&multifd_recv_state->sem_sync);
> }
> +
> + if (file_based) {
> + return;
> + }
> +
> for (i = 0; i < migrate_multifd_channels(); i++) {
> MultiFDRecvParams *p = &multifd_recv_state->params[i];
>
> @@ -1420,11 +1440,12 @@ static void *multifd_recv_thread(void *opaque)
> }
>
> /*
> - * Migration thread did not send work, break and signal
> - * sem_sync so it knows we're not lagging behind.
> + * Migration thread did not send work, this emulates
> + * pending_sync, post sem_sync to notify the main thread.
> */
> if (!qatomic_read(&p->pending_job)) {
> - break;
> + qemu_sem_post(&multifd_recv_state->sem_sync);
> + continue;
> }
>
> has_data = !!p->data->size;
> @@ -1449,10 +1470,6 @@ static void *multifd_recv_thread(void *opaque)
> }
> }
>
> - if (!use_packets) {
> - qemu_sem_post(&p->sem_sync);
> - }
> -
> if (local_err) {
> multifd_recv_terminate_threads(local_err);
> error_free(local_err);
>
> ==========
>
> Note that I used multifd_recv_state->sem_sync to send the message rather
> than p->sem, not only because socket-based has similar logic on using that
> sem, but also because main thread shouldn't care about "which" recv thread
> has finished, but "all recv threads are idle".
>
> Do you think this should work out for us in a nicer way?
>
I don't really like the interleaving of file and socket logic at
multifd_recv_sync_main(), but I can live with it.
Waiting on multifd_recv_state->sem_sync is problematic because if the
thread has an error, that will hang forever.
Actually, I don't even see this being handled in _current_ code
anywhere, we probably have a bug there. I guess we need to add one more
"post this sem just because" somewhere. multifd_recv_kick_main probably.
> Then we talk about the other issue, on whether we should rely on migration
> stream to flush recv threads. My answer is still hopefully a no.
>
> In the ideal case, fixed-ram image format should even be tailed to not use
> a live stream protocol. For example, currently during ram iterations we
> should flush quite a lot of ram QEMU_VM_SECTION_PART sections contains
> mostly rubbish but then ending that with RAM_SAVE_FLAG_EOS. Then we keep
> doing this in the iteration loop. Here the real meat is during processing
> of QEMU_VM_SECTION_PART, the src QEMU will update the guest pages with
> fixed offsets in the file. That however doesn't really contribute to
> anything valuable in the migration stream itself (things sent over
> to_dst_file).
>
> AFAIU we chose to still use that logic only for simplicity, even if we know
> those EOSs and all RAM streams are garbage. Now we tend to add one
> dependency on part of the garbage, which is RAM_SAVE_FLAG_MULTIFD_FLUSH in
> this case; which is useful in socket-based but shouldn't be necessary for
> file.
>
> I think I have a solution besides ram_load(): ultimately fixed-ram stores
> all guest mem in the QEMU_VM_SECTION_START section of the ram, through all
> of the RAM_SAVE_FLAG_MEM_SIZE (which leads to parse_ramblocks()). If so,
> perhaps we can do one shot sync for file at the end of parse_ramblocks()?
> Then we decouple sync_main on recv for file-based completely against all
> stream flags.
Yeah, that could work. I think I'll blacklist all unused flags using the
invalid_flags logic.
Thanks
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2024-02-27 14:02 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 79+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2024-02-20 22:41 [PATCH v4 00/34] migration: File based migration with multifd and fixed-ram Fabiano Rosas
2024-02-20 22:41 ` [PATCH v4 01/34] docs/devel/migration.rst: Document the file transport Fabiano Rosas
2024-02-23 3:01 ` Peter Xu
2024-02-20 22:41 ` [PATCH v4 02/34] tests/qtest/migration: Rename fd_proto test Fabiano Rosas
2024-02-23 3:03 ` Peter Xu
2024-02-20 22:41 ` [PATCH v4 03/34] tests/qtest/migration: Add a fd + file test Fabiano Rosas
2024-02-23 3:08 ` Peter Xu
2024-02-20 22:41 ` [PATCH v4 04/34] migration/multifd: Remove p->quit from recv side Fabiano Rosas
2024-02-23 3:13 ` Peter Xu
2024-02-20 22:41 ` [PATCH v4 05/34] migration/multifd: Release recv sem_sync earlier Fabiano Rosas
2024-02-23 3:16 ` Peter Xu
2024-02-20 22:41 ` [PATCH v4 06/34] io: add and implement QIO_CHANNEL_FEATURE_SEEKABLE for channel file Fabiano Rosas
2024-02-20 22:41 ` [PATCH v4 07/34] io: Add generic pwritev/preadv interface Fabiano Rosas
2024-02-20 22:41 ` [PATCH v4 08/34] io: implement io_pwritev/preadv for QIOChannelFile Fabiano Rosas
2024-02-20 22:41 ` [PATCH v4 09/34] io: fsync before closing a file channel Fabiano Rosas
2024-02-20 22:41 ` [PATCH v4 10/34] migration/qemu-file: add utility methods for working with seekable channels Fabiano Rosas
2024-02-20 22:41 ` [PATCH v4 11/34] migration/ram: Introduce 'fixed-ram' migration capability Fabiano Rosas
2024-02-21 8:41 ` Markus Armbruster
2024-02-21 13:24 ` Fabiano Rosas
2024-02-21 13:50 ` Daniel P. Berrangé
2024-02-21 15:05 ` Fabiano Rosas
2024-02-26 3:07 ` Peter Xu
2024-02-26 3:22 ` Peter Xu
2024-02-20 22:41 ` [PATCH v4 12/34] migration: Add fixed-ram URI compatibility check Fabiano Rosas
2024-02-26 3:11 ` Peter Xu
2024-02-20 22:41 ` [PATCH v4 13/34] migration/ram: Add outgoing 'fixed-ram' migration Fabiano Rosas
2024-02-26 4:03 ` Peter Xu
2024-02-20 22:41 ` [PATCH v4 14/34] migration/ram: Add incoming " Fabiano Rosas
2024-02-26 5:19 ` Peter Xu
2024-02-20 22:41 ` [PATCH v4 15/34] tests/qtest/migration: Add tests for fixed-ram file-based migration Fabiano Rosas
2024-02-20 22:41 ` [PATCH v4 16/34] migration/multifd: Rename MultiFDSend|RecvParams::data to compress_data Fabiano Rosas
2024-02-20 22:41 ` [PATCH v4 17/34] migration/multifd: Decouple recv method from pages Fabiano Rosas
2024-02-20 22:41 ` [PATCH v4 18/34] migration/multifd: Allow multifd without packets Fabiano Rosas
2024-02-26 5:57 ` Peter Xu
2024-02-20 22:41 ` [PATCH v4 19/34] migration/multifd: Allow receiving pages " Fabiano Rosas
2024-02-26 6:58 ` Peter Xu
2024-02-26 19:19 ` Fabiano Rosas
2024-02-26 20:54 ` Fabiano Rosas
2024-02-20 22:41 ` [PATCH v4 20/34] migration/multifd: Add outgoing QIOChannelFile support Fabiano Rosas
2024-02-26 7:10 ` Peter Xu
2024-02-26 7:21 ` Peter Xu
2024-02-20 22:41 ` [PATCH v4 21/34] migration/multifd: Add incoming " Fabiano Rosas
2024-02-26 7:34 ` Peter Xu
2024-02-26 7:53 ` Peter Xu
2024-02-20 22:41 ` [PATCH v4 22/34] migration/multifd: Prepare multifd sync for fixed-ram migration Fabiano Rosas
2024-02-26 7:47 ` Peter Xu
2024-02-26 22:52 ` Fabiano Rosas
2024-02-27 3:52 ` Peter Xu
2024-02-27 14:00 ` Fabiano Rosas [this message]
2024-02-27 23:46 ` Peter Xu
2024-02-20 22:41 ` [PATCH v4 23/34] migration/multifd: Support outgoing fixed-ram stream format Fabiano Rosas
2024-02-26 8:08 ` Peter Xu
2024-02-20 22:41 ` [PATCH v4 24/34] migration/multifd: Support incoming " Fabiano Rosas
2024-02-26 8:30 ` Peter Xu
2024-02-20 22:41 ` [PATCH v4 25/34] migration/multifd: Add fixed-ram support to fd: URI Fabiano Rosas
2024-02-26 8:37 ` Peter Xu
2024-02-20 22:41 ` [PATCH v4 26/34] tests/qtest/migration: Add a multifd + fixed-ram migration test Fabiano Rosas
2024-02-26 8:42 ` Peter Xu
2024-02-20 22:41 ` [PATCH v4 27/34] migration: Add direct-io parameter Fabiano Rosas
2024-02-21 9:17 ` Markus Armbruster
2024-02-26 8:50 ` Peter Xu
2024-02-26 13:28 ` Fabiano Rosas
2024-02-20 22:41 ` [PATCH v4 28/34] migration/multifd: Add direct-io support Fabiano Rosas
2024-02-20 22:41 ` [PATCH v4 29/34] tests/qtest/migration: Add tests for file migration with direct-io Fabiano Rosas
2024-02-20 22:41 ` [PATCH v4 30/34] monitor: Honor QMP request for fd removal immediately Fabiano Rosas
2024-02-21 9:20 ` Markus Armbruster
2024-02-20 22:41 ` [PATCH v4 31/34] monitor: Extract fdset fd flags comparison into a function Fabiano Rosas
2024-02-20 22:41 ` [PATCH v4 32/34] monitor: fdset: Match against O_DIRECT Fabiano Rosas
2024-02-21 9:27 ` Markus Armbruster
2024-02-21 13:37 ` Fabiano Rosas
2024-02-22 6:56 ` Markus Armbruster
2024-02-22 13:26 ` Fabiano Rosas
2024-02-22 14:44 ` Markus Armbruster
2024-02-20 22:41 ` [PATCH v4 33/34] migration: Add support for fdset with multifd + file Fabiano Rosas
2024-02-20 22:41 ` [PATCH v4 34/34] tests/qtest/migration: Add a test for fixed-ram with passing of fds Fabiano Rosas
2024-02-23 2:59 ` [PATCH v4 00/34] migration: File based migration with multifd and fixed-ram Peter Xu
2024-02-23 13:48 ` Claudio Fontana
2024-02-23 14:22 ` Fabiano Rosas
2024-02-26 6:15 ` Peter Xu
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