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From: Anthony Liguori <anthony@codemonkey.ws>
To: "Daniel P. Berrange" <berrange@redhat.com>
Cc: "Peter Maydell" <peter.maydell@linaro.org>,
	"Rusty Russell" <rusty@rustcorp.com.au>,
	"Andreas Färber" <afaerber@suse.de>,
	qemu-devel@nongnu.org
Subject: Re: [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 1/7] virtio: allow byte swapping for vring and config access
Date: Thu, 08 Aug 2013 11:07:56 -0500	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <87pptof9nn.fsf@codemonkey.ws> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20130808154507.GX14664@redhat.com>

"Daniel P. Berrange" <berrange@redhat.com> writes:

> On Thu, Aug 08, 2013 at 10:40:28AM -0500, Anthony Liguori wrote:
>> Andreas Färber <afaerber@suse.de> writes:
>> >> We have a mechanism to do weak functions via stubs/.  I think it would
>> >> be better to do cpu_get_byteswap() as a stub function and then overload
>> >> it in the ppc64 code.
>> >
>> > If this as your name indicates is a per-CPU function then it should go
>> > into CPUClass. Interesting question is, what is virtio supposed to do if
>> > we have two ppc CPUs, one is Big Endian, the other is Little Endian.
>> 
>> PPC64 is big endian.  AFAIK, there is no such thing as a little endian
>> PPC64 processor.
>
> Unless I'm misunderstanding, this thread seems to suggest otherwise:
>
>   "[Qemu-devel] [PATCH 0/5] 64bit PowerPC little endian support"
>
>   https://lists.nongnu.org/archive/html/qemu-devel/2013-08/msg00813.html

Yeah, it's confusing.  It feels like little endian to most software but
the distinction in hardware (and therefore QEMU) is important.

It's the same processor.  It still starts executing big endian
instructions.  A magic register value is tweaked and loads/stores are
swapped.  CPU data structures are still read as big endian though.  It's
really just load/stores that are affected.

The distinction is important in QEMU.  ppc64 is still
TARGET_WORDS_BIGENDIAN.  We still want most stl_phys to treat integers
as big endian.  There's just this extra concept that CPU loads/stores
are sometimes byte swapped.  That affects virtio but not a lot else.

Regards,

Anthony Liguori

>
>
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  reply	other threads:[~2013-08-08 16:08 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 43+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2013-08-08  5:15 [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 0/7] Virtio support for endian-curious guests Rusty Russell
2013-08-08  5:15 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 1/7] virtio: allow byte swapping for vring and config access Rusty Russell
2013-08-08 13:31   ` Anthony Liguori
2013-08-08 14:28     ` Andreas Färber
2013-08-08 15:40       ` Anthony Liguori
2013-08-08 15:45         ` Daniel P. Berrange
2013-08-08 16:07           ` Anthony Liguori [this message]
2013-08-08 16:14             ` Peter Maydell
2013-08-08 16:25               ` Anthony Liguori
2013-08-08 16:30                 ` Peter Maydell
2013-08-09  2:58             ` Rusty Russell
2013-08-09  4:39               ` Anton Blanchard
2013-08-09  8:05               ` Peter Maydell
2013-08-09 14:16               ` Anthony Liguori
2013-08-08 15:48         ` Peter Maydell
2013-08-08 16:11           ` Anthony Liguori
2013-08-08 16:24         ` Andreas Färber
2013-08-09  7:35           ` Rusty Russell
2013-08-09  7:42             ` Peter Maydell
2013-08-12  7:49               ` Rusty Russell
2013-08-09  7:49             ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2013-08-12  0:28               ` Rusty Russell
2013-08-12  0:49                 ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2013-08-09 15:15             ` Andreas Färber
2013-08-09  0:08       ` Rusty Russell
2013-08-09  7:00       ` Rusty Russell
2013-08-09 14:24         ` Andreas Färber
2013-08-09  6:40     ` Rusty Russell
2013-08-09 14:10       ` Anthony Liguori
2013-08-11 23:46         ` Rusty Russell
2013-08-08  5:15 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 2/7] target-ppc: ppc64 targets can be either endian Rusty Russell
2013-08-08  5:15 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 3/7] hw/net/virtio-net: use virtio wrappers to access headers Rusty Russell
2013-08-08 13:32   ` Anthony Liguori
2013-08-08  5:15 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 4/7] hw/net/virtio-balloon: use virtio wrappers to access page frame numbers Rusty Russell
2013-08-08 13:32   ` Anthony Liguori
2013-08-08  5:15 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 5/7] hw/block/virtio-blk: use virtio wrappers to access headers Rusty Russell
2013-08-08  9:57   ` Peter Maydell
2013-08-08 13:32   ` Anthony Liguori
2013-08-08  5:15 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 6/7] hw/scsi/virtio-scsi: " Rusty Russell
2013-08-08 13:33   ` Anthony Liguori
2013-08-08  5:15 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 7/7] hw/char/virtio-serial-bus: " Rusty Russell
2013-08-08 13:34   ` Anthony Liguori
2013-08-08  5:15 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 7/7] patch virtio-serial-biendian.patch Rusty Russell

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