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From: Anthony Liguori <anthony@codemonkey.ws>
To: "Michael S. Tsirkin" <mst@redhat.com>
Cc: seabios@seabios.org, lersek@redhat.com, qemu-devel@nongnu.org
Subject: Re: [Qemu-devel] [PATCH RFC 00/13] qemu: generate acpi tables for the guest
Date: Tue, 14 May 2013 08:34:43 -0500	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <87ppwt1y8c.fsf@codemonkey.ws> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20130514115838.GA24176@redhat.com>

"Michael S. Tsirkin" <mst@redhat.com> writes:

> On Mon, May 13, 2013 at 03:38:51PM -0500, Anthony Liguori wrote:
>> I don't think it's a good idea to move BIOS functionality in QEMU.
>
> Just to clarify: generating ACPI tables is not BIOS
> functionality. It ended up in seabios for historical
> reasons.
>
> A normal scenario for ACPI tables is that they are written
> in ASL and compiled with IASL.

I wouldn't call this the normal scenario.  Some tables are static but
more tables are dynamic than you'd think.  If you're a firmware engineer
and you have to support dozens of platforms, it's much easier to make
the tables dynamic than attempt to maintain dozens of ASL descriptions.

A lot of what you'd consider to be static is actually dynamic in a
multi-node system.

> The tables are then stored
> in some ROM device - most of them, except FACP, can actually
> be mapped directly from ROM if necessary.
>
> You won't normally find real BIOS probing PCI slots for
> hotplug support and writing EJ0 methods dynamically -
> instead the assumption is that hardware (in this case QEMU)
> supplies its own static description in form of ACPI tables.

Actually, this is a very good example.  In more modern boxes like Flex,
there's a PCI-Express backplane that all of the nodes are connected to
with a common set of slots for all nodes.  You can configure in firmware
how the slots map to each node.

I can share an acpi dump from one of these systems when after I head
into the office this morning.

This is what's nice about a switched PCI complex.  You have tremendous
amounts of flexibility in how you set things up.

Regards,

Anthony Liguori

> My patchset uses FW_CFG as such a ROM device. It would be
> easy to switch to something else instead of FW_CFG.
> Is this what you are suggesting?
>
> -- 
> MST

  reply	other threads:[~2013-05-14 13:34 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 40+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2013-05-13 20:00 [Qemu-devel] [PATCH RFC 00/13] qemu: generate acpi tables for the guest Michael S. Tsirkin
2013-05-13 20:00 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH RFC 03/13] refer to FWCfgState explicitly Michael S. Tsirkin
2013-05-13 20:00 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH RFC 02/13] hw/i386/pc.c: move IO_APIC_DEFAULT_ADDRESS to include/hw/i386/apic.h Michael S. Tsirkin
2013-05-13 20:08   ` Eric Blake
2013-05-13 20:00 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH RFC 01/13] apic: rename apic specific bitopts Michael S. Tsirkin
2013-05-13 20:22   ` Peter Maydell
2013-05-13 20:29     ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2013-05-13 20:00 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH RFC 04/13] fw_cfg: move typedef to qemu/typedefs.h Michael S. Tsirkin
2013-05-13 20:00 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH RFC 05/13] i386: add ACPI table files from seabios Michael S. Tsirkin
2013-05-13 20:01 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH RFC 06/13] acpi: add rules to compile ASL source Michael S. Tsirkin
2013-05-13 20:01 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH RFC 07/13] acpi: pre-compiled ASL files Michael S. Tsirkin
2013-05-13 20:01 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH RFC 08/13] range: add Range structure Michael S. Tsirkin
2013-05-13 20:20   ` Peter Maydell
2013-05-14  7:55     ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2013-05-13 20:01 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH RFC 09/13] i386: add bios linker/loader Michael S. Tsirkin
2013-05-13 20:01 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH RFC 13/13] pc: reuse guest info for legacy fw cfg Michael S. Tsirkin
2013-05-13 20:01 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH RFC 10/13] i386: generate pc guest info Michael S. Tsirkin
2013-05-13 20:23   ` Peter Maydell
2013-05-14  8:06     ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2013-05-14  9:32       ` Peter Maydell
2013-05-13 20:01 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH RFC 12/13] i386: ACPI table generation code from seabios Michael S. Tsirkin
2013-05-13 20:27   ` Peter Maydell
2013-05-13 20:01 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH RFC 11/13] pc: pass PCI hole ranges to Guests Michael S. Tsirkin
2013-05-13 20:38 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH RFC 00/13] qemu: generate acpi tables for the guest Anthony Liguori
2013-05-14  1:54   ` [Qemu-devel] [SeaBIOS] " Kevin O'Connor
2013-05-14  9:29   ` [Qemu-devel] " Gerd Hoffmann
2013-05-14  9:38     ` Peter Maydell
2013-05-14 14:29       ` [Qemu-devel] [SeaBIOS] " David Woodhouse
2013-05-14 15:13         ` Peter Maydell
2013-05-14 13:26     ` [Qemu-devel] " Anthony Liguori
2013-05-14 13:53       ` Gerd Hoffmann
2013-05-14 14:40         ` Anthony Liguori
2013-05-14 11:58   ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2013-05-14 13:34     ` Anthony Liguori [this message]
2013-05-14 14:14       ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2013-05-15  6:38       ` [Qemu-devel] [SeaBIOS] " Gerd Hoffmann
2013-06-03 22:19       ` [Qemu-devel] " Jordan Justen
2013-06-03 23:12         ` Anthony Liguori
2013-06-04  4:14           ` Jordan Justen
2013-05-16 11:27   ` Michael S. Tsirkin

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